seed enhancing fluid(Gibberellic acid)

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  1. liliana

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    Has anyone heard of this/bought the product?:scratch:

    If they have, what are the results? :scratch:
     
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    Yup, I have heard of it.
    It is used to stimulate difficult seeds into germinating.

    Not sure where you get it from though.
     
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    Never used it, although I have used saltpetre for a similar reason. I may give it a go as I have some seeds that are proving difficult to germinate and it is suggested as a means of kicking them into life.
     
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    Diluted Hydrogen Peroxide is used for the same thing. Cheap & freely available.
     
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    It's a naturally occurring hormone found in plants that can stimulate growth, for example when plants turn towards the sun they produce this acid on the opposite side of the stem to elongate those cells. It's use in horticulture is pretty specialised though and would only be worth using on valuable difficult seeds.

    What are you thinking of using it on liliana?
     
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      That sterilises the seed, which reduces the risk of mould growth which will likely prevent germination. Often import for seeds that are slow to germinate.

      Gibberellic acid is a plant hormone, as @JWK said, and it is involved in the germination process, thus a different animal.

      Gibberellic acid is not particularly expensive, but getting the concentration right is critical, too much can prevent germination, and too little will do nothing ...

      I have some, I have used some, but I don't think its been any use (in what I have used it for). I also used it when working on commercial nurseries, to accelerate seed germination, but they obviously knew exactly how much for the seeds they grew.
       
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        I have banana (ensete ventricosum)(musa lasiocarpa) and Bird of Paradise.
         
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        Banana notoriously low germination rates. 10% germination is good (so if you only have 10 seeds don't hold your breath!). Best sown fresh I think, so might be worth sowing soonest anyway. Can benefit from a temperature change simulating Day/Night - so perhaps 30C for the day part and 18C for the night part.
         
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          As A side line,
          I bought some Ensete seed a while ago.
          I had quite a few so I only sowed half of them, they came with a sachet of saltpeter, which I made up the solution and soaked according to instructions.
          I had one seed in about 12 germinate.

          A couple of months later I sowed the rest of the seed, but this time I poured near boiling water on the seed then left it to soak for two days.
          I got three to germinate by that method. Four plants is more than enough for me.

          No real test, I know, but boiling water is also suggested for many Acacia seeds.
           
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            PS, never had a problem germinating BOP seed just as long as it is fresh, and it needs about 80F.
             
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              I have read (Dave of HTUK) that hot water causes the air in the seed, under the seed cost, to expand - and be expelled - and as the temperature reduces the seed contracts and "sucks in" water, kick-starting germination.

              I've also see a recommendation to put the seeds in some water in a pump up sprayer, and pressurise it = too force the water into the seed, with the same kick-start effect.

              Lot of faff getting the seeds in, and out, of the sprayer I reckon ... there might be simpler ways of pressurising them though?
               
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