Should single mothers be forced to go back to work?

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  1. intermiplants

    intermiplants Gardener

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    what do you think and before some single mother throws a frying pan at me i was just wondering seems they are serious about it once the child reaches three..i must admit i know a few of these young ones that just pump out kids will never see a days work:scratch:
     
  2. youngdaisydee

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    So if they have a kid every 3 years, they wont have to work !
     
  3. intermiplants

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    and some do that just to avoid work.. :oops:
     
  4. lollipop

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    Yeah sure, a new baby really helps on the `cutting down the workload` thing. LOL.





    I always wonder what happens when the summer holidays come round-or the kiddie gets really ill etc. If anyone knows of a job where you get approx 3 months holiday and unlimited paid sick days and the option to leave at any and all times because the school has rung and needs you to collect them; perhaps they could inform the government. I have yet to see any advertised.

    It won`t work-fortunately.


    I don`t support this or any attempt made to further penalise single parents, there are just as many bad, bone idle, married, or otherwise partnered parents. There are lots of us married parents who are only not single because of the choice of another, and barring tragedy, -and there but for the grace of God go many of us. There should be a full time parent in the home for the children. And saying "they should have thought about that at the time" changes nothing whatsoever about it.

    Leave the stereotypes out of the argument and there might actually be an intelligent debate. Venomous, short-sighted points of view get us nowhere.
     
  5. sweetpeas

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    I personally think they should leave the single parents alone and get those able to work but can't be bothered to/don't want to to get a job. I would have thought they're more of a drain on the finances. I know what you mean by some people popping them out, there are a few of them around me and moan alot when the council don't give them a house, I don't think any of them know what it's like to work.

    Though I will state that I'm not talking about those that do seriously look for and apply for jobs as I know now are tough times and have a very good friend that's in that position and not having alot of luck.

    I'm a single parent and had to give up my job when I split up with my lads ex. I managed about a month after he moved out. As my lad was in private nursery, we were leaving the house at 7am and not getting in till 7pm, we had to get 2 busses there and two back then after dropping him off I'd get picked up for work and dropped off as if I didn't I wouldn't be able to get to work on time or pick him up on time(thankfuly I have a few very good friends there and wouldn't have lasted that month without them). As well as financially I was physically exhausted and making myself ill. by the time we got home it was food and bed for the both of us and when we had time on the weekend he's go to his dads.
    I'm now seeing my son grow and develope into the young man he's going to be :) He's 9 in January.
    I worked for the majority of his young life and missed so much.
    But thankfully I was in a position to go back to work after having him, but for the short while I didn't I felt awful and wanted to get back as soon as i could and did.
    I'm now working towards going back to work, getting the qualifications I didn't get from school.

    Lecture over:lollol: well there's more but it's school time :)
     
  6. Lyn

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    I don't think making single parents work is a good idea.
    With school holiday sickness etc it would be a nightmare to deal with.
    What I do think ,is a way of everyone who can ,earing their allowance the best way they can, via voluntary work or training.
    Not just single parents.
    This would fit round the children.
    The schools , hospitals etc would get extra hands to do the menial tasks and the young people would get training and see another side of life outside benefits and children.
    This would then hopefully break the family habit of benift living.
    They do the hours get their book stamped or they don't get paid.
     
  7. Sussexgardener

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    Perhaps look at the definition of single mothers versus teenage mothers. A lot of the media hype is about the latter. I'm sure there are a lot more single mothers who are in that state simply because of circumstances-loss of partner through divorce or death. And a lot of them do work!

    On the other hand I saw a "teenage mother" walking up the road the other day, pushing a child in a pram, followed by 2 older children and a man. My natural assumption was "scrounger". But she could have been a child minder; only one of those children could have been hers; the man might or might not have been her partner and if so, he could have taken a day off work, or worked shifts. The possibilities are endless. So care is needed when jumping to conclusions about people.

    No, I'm not a bleeding heart liberal-there is a strata of society that have become benefit dependant and they need to be dealt with. But we also need to look at why we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Western Europe.
     
  8. clueless1

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    Great idea. Make the poor woman go to a job she isn't suited to, and spend all her wages and more on childcare so the poor kid grows up having been raised by someone else, then if the kid turns out to be a problem case when he/she hits the teens, blame it on the negligent single mum who was never there for her kids.

    Personally I think the sooner someone gives Gordon Brown and his cronies a good swift kick up the backside the better.
     
  9. Pro Gard

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    One things for certain, any labour government implemented scheme will almost certainly fall by the wayside almost as quickly as its instigated and at a cost to us the tax payer. Regardless of the rights and the wrongs of it.

    Thats if its instigated at all, I suspect its just a sound bite cooked up by labour party spin doctors to try and win back a pree identified demographic of wavering potential voters.

    IMO the real drain on the economy lies not with single parents but with legal and illegal immigrants and none of the three main parties have any credible solution to this problem.
     
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    In the past I have had the "pleasure" of working on a few government contracts. The biggest burden on the tax payer is the amount of money the government spends on auditor firms such as Price Waterhouse Coopers and Deloitte's, both of which charge the government an absolute fortune to check if the other contractors are giving value for money. And when I say a fortune, I mean a real fortune.
     
  11. lollipop

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    Clueless-he, along with many politicians past and present merely pander to stereotypical points of view.

    I`m with you though, every measure taken against single parents is a direct attack on the child or children, and no matter what people`s views are of them the child cannot suffer as a result of changes brought about by a witch hunt mentality.


    It isn`t just about making them go to an unsuitable job, its the type of job any mum can get whilst their child is of school age that`s the issue.

    Anyone with kids try asking for the afternoon off to go to see their childs Nativity lately? Oh and don`t forget having the dentists appointments, and the doctors, and the times when you have to collect a vomiting child from school? Oh yes- employers are very sympathetic aren`t they.

    You`ll find yourself on the dole queue again in next to no time-of course there is always the option of not going to these things, after all we only have children so as we can spend all our time ignoring them and their daily and constant needs.


    This government need a serious pasting-bailing out irresponsible banks that have been ripping us off for years one minute and in the next tearing Mums off young children. Well done-Merry Christmas Mr Brown.
     
  12. daitheplant

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    I agree with all your comments. So you all know what to do at the next election. If you want change, then change it.:thumb:
     
  13. pete

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    As has been said, there are differing cases and reasons.

    But I think Lyn hit the nail on the head.

    If you claim benefit, for whatever reason, and are fit and healthy, you should give something back, no excuses accepted.
     
  14. lollipop

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    Couldn`t have said it better myself for all the blather I give out when heated up.:lollol:
     
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    I thought " blather " was a Yorkshire word Claire.:lollol::lollol::lollol:
     
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