Small DIY dilemma

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  1. The Nut

    The Nut Gardener

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    Me again after yet more info:
    Ok here goes. I have just purchased a wall mounted Gargoyle which is fairly heavy its 9inch by 9 inch and made of stone so I am guessing it weighs around 5lb.. sorrry I only do old money not all those cm's and kilos thingies. My dilemma is it only has a small hoop with which to hang it, a cup hook would just about go through it. So would a cup hook suffice and if so what size screw do I need, do I use a raw plug and do I drill into the brick or the mortar as its going outside on my house wall.
    Oh one last thing when drilling do I offer the pointy end to the wall or the blunt end (KIDDING)
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    Thks in advance
     
  2. lollipop

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    Hi Nut,

    You need a masonry bit for your drill. A cup hook wont do-they are usually some naff alloy-nowhere near strong enough. You will need a steel hook and it will need to be galvanised to prevent rust, theye come in various widths and sizes-it does not reflect on how much weight they can bear, just choose the width you need. You drill into the brick-not the mortar, it will just crumb,le and fall away over time, and you should use a masonry rawl plug. If you get it from a well known diy store I think you can get a kit and it will say how much weight it can take. If not then just get those things above and you should be alright. Shouldnt cost you more than a fiver for it all (although it has been sometime since I bought any drill bits).


    Hope this helps, and don`t drop it on your toes lol

    If your gargoyle is moulded concrete it will be quite light and shouldn`t cause you too many problems but judging roughly by your dimensions if it is carved stone you`ll need more than a hook to keep it up there.
     
  3. The Nut

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    Pops just get over to Warrington and do it for me :)
    Ill give you sweeties
     
  4. Paladin

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    Hi Nut. Maybe the hoop is meant to hang over a screw head protruding from the wall and not a hook. I would use a 10 x 2 1/2 " round headed screw,drill a 7mm hole,push in a brown rawl plug and wind in the screw leaving 10mm including the head sticking out from the wall and locate the hoop over the screw. Adjust the screw ,in or out , until the Gargoyle sits nicely. Ok?:)
     
  5. lollipop

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    Forgot to add you should switch your drill to the hammer setting (usually denoted by a small symbol on the right hand side of a drill), and don`t try to drill the hole in one go, go backwards and forwards a few times. They get very very hot when going through stone as it has to work so hard.

    Good Luck
     
  6. Daisies

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    I suggest you first put a square of timber on the wall big enough to accommodate the gargoyle and about 2" thick minimum. Give it a nice sanding and a coat of paint to make it look good, secure it with at least 4 screws that are a goodish lengthand rawl-plugged. Then you can fix the screw whatever for the gargoyle into it. And yes, I'd recommend a big headed screw rather than a cup hook. They're only intended for indoor use.

    Who says women can't DIY! [​IMG]
     
  7. lollipop

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    Hi again Nut, not too far really just the other side of Leigh!!!!

    DIY is dead easy-even fellas can do it!
     
  8. The Nut

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    Hmmm if I buy my rawl plugs, drill bits, Hammer drill, timber for plaque, screws sandpaper, paint its should come to about £50.00 hmmm I think I'll just knock a nail in :)
    Thk you all really.
     
  9. lollipop

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    Make sure its a masonry nail, and knock the end upwards after-I can bodge a job too. You could always take it back and get one with fixings.


    Can`t stand that-like selling a iron without the plug I reckon.
     
  10. Ivory

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    DIY is dead easy-even fellas can do it!

    :D:D:D

    Go, girls, we are one lovely scary sisterhood.
     
  11. The Nut

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    Ooooo Ivory ....lol your asking for it .. te he
    I will sit here and wait for the back lash. Lets see whos first ladies ;-)
     
  12. Ivory

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    Ooops, I forgot to put quotes, it´s a quote from the LollyPop´s post... but yeah, I agree!! :D:D:D
     
  13. The Nut

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    Me thinks the boys are hiding behind their Hollyhocks :)
     
  14. Pro Gard

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    A masonry nail risks shatering the bricks or cracking the pointing, cant you borrow a drill or get a freind to do it? 5 min job max.
     
  15. The Nut

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    I have 2 drills but ones so heavy I can even lift it :) I bought the heavy one as it looked good.
    How strong it liquid nails? Failing that Blue Tack?
     
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