Started sowing the first veg

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  1. JWK

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    It will be worth it if it is blight resistant, especially after your last year's troubles.
     
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    I'm split between 2 plots Dave,one in West Bay,south coast of Dorset & the other 25 Miles inland in Somerset. The Dorset one usually gets less frost but not this year. Both frozen solid for weeks.


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    My thoughts too. I don't think there is a truely blight resistant one, but i'm trying this one and trying to get an earlier start.

    If I'd had 2 weeks head start last year, I could have had the whole crop in and processed befor the blight took hold.
     
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    A very good reason to get a flying start, how could I forget about late blight - it wiped out my outdoor crop last year right at the end of the season.
     
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    I believe (but could be wrong) that this year has been exceptional, with the arctic conditions reaching everywhere in the UK. Generally though, there is a very noticeable difference between north and south in terms of spring's arrival date.

    When I lived in Sheffield, I could set off up home for a visit while everything was still green in Sheffield, and by the time I arrived up here (just 100 miles up) everything would be brown and bedded down for winter.

    Its kind of the same now, I work 30 miles north of home. At the back end of Autumn last year everything was still green here, but for just 30 miles difference everything was finished up in county Durham.

    I've heard people at work whinging about the weather, saying summer starts in late June and is finished by mid August. When I was in Sheffield (for the sake of about 120 miles between new work and Sheffield) summer was typically mid May to beginning of October. Its amazing what a difference a few miles can make.
     
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    There must be hot and cold spots in the UK clueless, I used to fly up to Lossiemouth in Scotland a few years ago for work and if anything they seemed to be ahead of surrey in terms of the spring season, I noticed the daffodils were always out earlier than down here in surrey.
     
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    And what happened to it a few days later :

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    Managed to process most of the green ones into something useable but I was so close to having a harvest that I could really have done something with.:DOH:
     
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    Oh Ziggy ! That's terrible. What a shame :cry3:
    But once the blight is in the fruit it has had it .
    I go for an early sowing and get the crop before the blight arrives.
    I've no greenhouse but I do have a large, heated conservatory and keep my plants in there until they can go outside.
    We tend to live in the conservatory but my long suffering husband never complains about the plants taking over. Maybe he likes living in the jungle with me :)
     
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    That sounds great. I'd love a conservatory, which I would make into a mini jungle. Maybe one day.

    On the blight issue, I know its awful. I've grown many crops of potatoes over the years, and a couple of years ago I got my first ever blight. All that hard work, preparing the ground, planting, looking after, harvesting, all down the pan. It put me off so much that I never bothered last year (apart from a half hearted attempt in a tiny patch of the new back garden). But, when we fall we have two choices, we either stay down and give up, or we brush ourselves down, take a deep breath, and do it again. Chin up.:)
     
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    Hmmm - can't wait to see if your 'special' toms Ziggy produce 'golden' tomatoes....phew £3.99 for only 6 seeds! MUST be a VERY special variety but maybe well worth the expense? So what was the variety again?
    It is always fun to try something new to grow tho. :WINK1:
     
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    Have you got a Wyevale [Garden Centre chain] near you? They have a 50p-a-packet sale in September. Might not have that variety / left, but its good for expensive packets. I buy several packets of anything expensive I see to cover me for the next couple of years.
     
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    I can't remember the variety, i'll have a look when I get home.Its probably something like, tomato, we saw you coming.
    As you say, it might be a good thing.
    If I had seen the number of seeds then I probably wouldn't have bought them, but that might be where i'm going wrong, sacrificing quality for quantity.
     
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    Back now, sorry Kristen, missed that post as we posted at the same time.

    No, not heard of Wyevale, but will keep my eye open in the autumn:thumbsup:

    The tomato is,
    " Losetto, F1, blight resistant outdoor basket variety. An outstanding, cascading bush variety that has show exceptional tolerance to the devastaing late blight fungus in trials over the last 2 years. Sweet cherry-sized,round fruits are produced in abundance from baskets or containers on the patio."

    Should have read that bit first too, no wonder its blight tolerant, they've not grown it near any soil for 2 years:DOH:[hr]
    Also bought Tomato, tamina.

    Very early outdoor variety, excellent taste & quality, less sideshooting required.

    Window sill in mid feb, then greenhouse & out after the frosts.
     
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    Not on your life, Ziggy!! My wife and I used to grow every kind of vegetables on the plot for years but when I lost her I abandoned the garden for 2 years until I could survive the grief. When I did I decided to continue our love of flowers and herbaceous plants as a tribute to her. So I dug up what had become couch grass and weed covered wasteland and spent all the summer knocking out all the roots etc from the sods and turves!! I've spent a fortune and the last 8 years re-stocking the plot and and garden with just about everything I could from a place called Arley Hall, near Knutsford, Cheshire which was a place my wife loved. I've now got a garden that I love and which gives me pleasure and great peace of mind [especially if I've got a glass of wine in my hand] and it's nice when my family and friends visit and go "Wow!". Having said that I'm probably in that phase where I will slip a few veg's in the herbaceous borders - so have you got any recommendations, Ziggy??1[hr]
    I live on the Cheshire Plains where it's fairly mild. I have a greenhouse that is still a cold greenhouse even though I have some solar panels heating water which radiates heat just stopping it dropping below zero. I sow twice with tomatoes for greenhouse growing, the first in February and the 2nd in March just to be cautious and also to extend the growing period. You're at least a week "short" at the beginning and end of your summer where you live, against where I live, so it would pay you to be cautious when sowing. If you've got a heated propagator then that would help.
     
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