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    I acquired half a dozen large plastic barrels last week (in addition to one that I already have), with a view to sawing them in half to make planters out of them; I will drill holes into the bottom of them for the sake of drainage, but was wondering about filling them up -- I reckon each half barrel will take 120-180 litres (not tried one yet), which is a hell of a lot of compost given that I have all my other baskets etc to fill too.

    I have some old compost from last year that could go to the bottom I suppose, but I was wondering about a layer of something at the bottom first - ordinarily, this would be rocks/stones/broken bricks, however as I don't have any of these to hand I was wondering about using some of the twigs and sticks that I have tons of from the fallen buddleia tree, thus giving a layer of sticks in the bottom, then old compost (I can put weed suppressing fabric in between the sticks and the compost if it will help things), topped off with the new compost?

    Or am I 'barking' up the wrong tree? :heehee:
     
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      I don't see why not FC, just make sure there are no twigs with Buddleia seeds on though.. I recycle compost for some of my pots although I mix old & new compost together..
      I don't think I would bother with weed matting though by the time your new compost goes in you should have a fair depth of compost.. Then as you water & feed you can pull any unwanted weeds etc..
       
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      If your twigs and sticks are from an old buddleia ... well, I wouldn't be *quite* so eager to use them ... unless you want planters full of buddleias :heehee: (them be determined little blighters, in my experience, and can re-sprout when and where least expected! Yes, even when they look as dead as a dodo!)

      Are you certain you want to use those plastic barrels for planters?
      Maybe they could be used for rain barrels?
      Or, utilised for making fresh wholesome compost?
      Or, so you can make concentrated nettle tea for feeding your gorgeous plants with (stick your nettles in an old net curtain sewn as a sort of sack, dangle that in your barrel that has been allowed to fill with rain water - then steep - dilute as necessary).

      "Receptacles" are a precious commodity in the garden at any time, but, I would be considering which requirement takes priority: water storage for the lean times; fresh compost; making my own feed/fertilizer and then, lower on my personal list, planters.
       
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        I am absolutely certain @"M" - I don't have room for them to be used as rain barrels or composters (they are currently stacked up in a corner by the shed), and I am a bit cheesed off with the growbags that I have used for the past couple of years; each growbag is taking around 120-litres of compost to fill, but still only give a total depth of around 8-inches, which can reduce if the sides bulge out and the bag sags (pretty useless for carrots, and leeks for example). Moving them is a complete nightmare, as they just tear, there is planting space lost because they have two thick straps that run across the width of them, and being so low the dog (or anything else that feels like it) can simply hop on top and wander about at will.

        The main idea is greater planting depth, but also to be a lot more sturdy. Initially, I was just going to fill them with a compost mix, but the more I thought about 14 planters full of compost, plus my troughs, baskets, tomato pots and greenhouse pots, the more I could see bankruptcy looming.

        The tree is a goner already (its drying out on the patio as I type), and was only going to be burned, hence I wondered about using it as a filler - I might look and see if I can get some cheap gravel/rubble instead.
         
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          Informative: ok, so, knee jerk reaction is:
          Cut two = 4 containers and a depth to play with. (Less to fill, but giving you some flexibility)
          Keep the others stored (because they are already using that space you neither win nor lose).
          If at all possible, find a space for just one of them to make you some lush compost in the forthcoming year so next year you can cut another one in half and used the ready made compost to fill those two new "containers" with. So on, year on year until you have used them all up, not gone bankrupt and are on a rotation to gardening heaven ;)

          Remember: Rome was not built in a day! Also, "patience" is a gardener's middle name ;)

          If you should resort to burning the buddleia, use the ash and add it to your compost! I do think twigs/branches are an idea, so if you could find some locally on a walk, perhaps? An alternative might be, buy a cheap bale of straw and use that divided over your planters as a base?
           
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            Ooooh, now I like the straw idea! I was originally planning on scattering the ash from the burner on the borders, assuming it would be beneficial to the soil structure (probably all the more important given the winter we just had)? I doubt I will be able to store the barrels for too long though (although I can get more), simply due to the way I have shoved them in just now - they are blocking access to the shed at the moment, as well as making it a military operation to get our bins out :heehee:

            Now, I wonder where I can get a few bales of straw around here..... hmmmmm......
             
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              I'll swap you a couple bales of straw for a couple of barrels :)
               
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                PS: Did you want some chicken/duck muck attached to that straw? :whistle:
                 
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                  Thanks for the offer @"M" - I reckon Mrs C might have a fit if I were to fill the car with straw and the odour of chicken and duck muck :heehee:

                  There is a horse livery place not far from me - I'll butter them up for a few bales I think, and maybe some manure; A few trays of seedlings should about do the trick.....

                  If you have a bus/coach/lorry place anywhere nearby, its worth asking if they have any of their shampoo barrels that are going for recycling - they would almost certainly let you have them.
                   
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                    FC....Have you got any polystyrene you could use to put in the base of the planters, it also makes them easier to move around being lighter.
                     
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                      You should have one for a quick fix comfry mix,i make room for that saves on buying the tomato feed plus drowns out the smell of hen poop composting near by :)Bales of hay & straw are hard to come by here as they are mostly making the large round bales now which is way too big!
                      If you are placing them on ground and not paved area,dig them in and use the soil from the dig mixed with some fresh compost,could save money and ask neighbours for rumble maybe x
                       
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                        I am going to stick them on my patio @joolz68, where I currently have the growbags. The other thing I wondered about using was sharp sand, as its generally cheap as chips, and might even help with water and nutrient retention?

                        Now that is a cracker of an idea - sadly, I have no polystyrene! Wonder where I can get some from...........
                         
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                        Ask at B&M or similar shops that chuck polysterene out from display stock,is a good idea that @Sheal :)
                        Not sure how much sharp sand is but buying a bulk bag maybe a better option,125litres of verve compost is approx £6 now,theyve not put it on offer yet:frown:
                         
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                          FC ....You could try electrical/appliance shops, they tend to have bits and pieces laying around after unboxing display items.
                           
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