sucker or not

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    martin ruane Apprentice Gardener

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    hi all
    I have a climbing rose in my garden which i planted last year. The rose is well mulched and fed and is flourishing. This year it has a new growth that is well above the rest of the rose and i was wondering whether this growth is a sucker or not. It does not come from below ground level but from about a foot above and just a side shoot off one of the main stems. It looks odd and rubbery but has flower buds on it and am reluctant to remove it if it is normal growth. Am hoping to post some pics to. Any help would be much appreciated. The rose is a David austin climbing rose called "The Pilgrim""
     

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    It looks like its just decided to do what its meant to and gone on a growth spurt to enable it to climb up the wall.
    Maybe the grower nips out the new growth enabling it to stay bushy in the garden centre and when you get it home it just goes for it. Looks nice and healthy.
     
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    Agree, it is part of the original climber, not a sucker which tends to have seven leaflets. it appears slightly different as it has a bit of fasciation in the stem, which I have not seen on a rose before. It's not a problem and will not do any harm.
     
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    Good afternoon @martin ruane its new growth:smile:

    No, while most of the hybrid teas and floribunda's have just 5 leaves many of the roses belonging to the other groups have 7, 9 or even more leaflets. There are no hard and fast rules to distinguish a sucker but generally the leaves have 7 leaflets and are a rather pale green as are the stems which are often smooth with few thorns. If they flower they will have 5 petals and will be a very pale blush white. Suckers come only from the rootstock on which the garden rose is budded and so will only come from below the bud union. The young growth from some roses can be very vigorous and look out of character and rather sucker-like, so do check carefully before cutting these otherwise you may well ruin the plant.



    Just a bit of trivia
    Registration name:AUSwalker
    Exhibition name:
    The Pilgrim ®
    Bred by David C. H. Austin (United Kingdom, before 1991).
    Shrub. English Rose Collection.
    Yellow, lighter outer petals. Mild, spice, tea fragrance. up to 170 petals. Average diameter 2.75". Medium, very full (41+ petals), borne mostly solitary, in small clusters, cupped-to-flat, rosette bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Pointed, ovoid, rounded buds.
    Parentage Graham Thomas x Yellow Button

    Upright. 7 leaflets.
    Height of 42" to 10' (105 to 305 cm). Width of 5' (150 cm).
    Can be trained as a climber. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to Mildew.



    Josef Distl grows this rose in Germany where it is called Gartenarchitekt Günther Schulze, named for the designer of the display gardens at Rosen Jensen at Glücksburg, Germany.
     
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