Suggest a climbing rose

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  1. Loofah

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    I'd like suggestions for a climbing rose please. It's for a north east facing wall that gets sunshine early to late morning, and will be tied in to wires.
    Definite preference for long or repeat blooming, very fragrant and good for bees so single form (I think I have that right). I appreciate that light levels may not be the best but am hoping there's a good option.

    Any contenders?
     
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    Good morning @Loofah I could answer your question repeat flowering yes,will it it grow on a North East wall yes ,is it scented yes but what coloue would you prefer;):smile:

    I shall only respectfully suggest Roses that I have seen growing and thriving in the circumstances that fit with your question we have to be wary of roses growers that say that a certain Rose grow in these locations the biggest percentage will not;)

    Dancing Queen is one that I see most days which will grow on a North East facing wall and copes well with just 4 or 5 hours of Sunshine/if you let me know what colour you prefer I shall find the best Rose for you:smile:



    Dancing Queen (climber, Fryer, 2004) [Fryfestoon]
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    Climber, Large-Flowered Climber. Pink. Mild fragrance. Large, double (17-25 petals) bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. . Height of 9' 8" (295 cm).
     
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      Take a look at Mermaid, an old favourite of mine. Beautiful single yellow flowers, long flowering season, but may grow too large.

      This article is interesting on bees and roses, and has some suggestions for their favourites - apparently roses don't have nectar, so it'd be the pollen they come for.
       
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        Mermaid:smile:

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        Mermaid
        Light yellow Large-Flowered Climber.
        Exhibition name: Mermaid
        Bred by William Paul and Son(1906) (United Kingdom, before 1917).
        Introduced in Australia by Hazlewood Bros Pty Ltd in 1923 as 'Mermaid'.
        Climber, Hybrid Bracteata, Large-Flowered Climber.
        Light yellow, amber stamens. Moderate fragrance. 5 petals. Average diameter 5". Large, single (4-8 petals) bloom form. Continuous (perpetual) bloom throughout the season.
        Tall, armed with thorns / prickles, climbing. Glossy foliage.

        Height: 15' to 25' (455 to 760cm). Width: up to 20' (up to 610cm).
        Can be used for garden, hedge or landscape. Very vigorous. shade tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Prune lightly or not at all.
        Diploid
        Rosa bracteata J.C.Wendl. × Tea
        In Victoria, BC, Canada, Mermaid starts flowering later than many roses but then flowers continuously till November
        For more information about parentage, see References.
        An unusual use for 'Mermaid' which may not have occurred to you before -- received via email: This rose is very useful as a vandal deterrent. I live in an inner city cottage and I not infrequently had my letterbox mugged and my picket fence ravaged. My peonies were picked and my sunflowers stripped of their heads. Now 'Mermaid' sprawls and twines through the agapanthus blue pickets delighting the eye, scenting the street and wounding the unworthy. We plan more such organic deterrents round the windows and doors.

        Further comment, at Government House in Victoria BC Canada we had a 'Mermaid' growing over a section of glaciated bed rock. The old method of growing roses over rock continues here with screws set in the rock and wires to tie the roses down to. In its first summer 'Mermaid' went from 18 inches to 15 feet. The result of good soil, adequate water and the heat from the rock. Victoria is on the climatic edge for 'Mermaid', is does not do well in Vancouver BC. Government House also has Rosa bracteata, a 'Mermaid' parent, which is even more effective as a vandal deterrent.
         
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          I'll be honest in that I didn't have a specific colour in mind so a variety of options would be good, if not too much trouble? :)
           
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            No worries my friend this one I often see this one its growing on a North East facing wall although a shrub it can be grown as a climber:smile:

            The Pilgrim
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            Exhibition name: The Pilgrim ®
            Bred by David C H Austin(1926-2018) (United Kingdom, before 1991).
            Shrub. (Series: English Rose Collection)
            Yellow, lighter outer petals. Mild, spice, tea fragrance. up to 170 petals. Average diameter 2.75". Medium, very full (41+ petals), borne mostly solitary, in small clusters, cupped-to-flat, rosette bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Pointed, ovoid, rounded buds.
            Upright. 7 leaflets.

            Height: 42" to 10' (105 to 305cm). Width: 5' (150cm).
            USDA zone 5b through 10b. Can be trained as a climber. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to Mildew.
            Observations made from specimens grown in a garden environment in Albrighton, Wolverhampton, England in August 1991.
            Graham Thomas x Yellow Button
            Josef Distl grows this rose in Germany where it is called Gartenarchitekt Günther Schulze, named for the designer of the display gardens at Rosen Jensen at Glücksburg, Germany.
             
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                Golden Showers this one is in the Hospice garden that I look after:smile:


                Registration name: Golden Showers
                Bred by Dr. Walter E. Lammerts (United States, circa 1950).
                Introduced in United States by Seed & Plant Co.Germain' in 1956 as 'Golden Showers'.
                Introduced in Australia by Hazlewood Bros. Pty. Ltd. in 1958 as 'Golden Showers'.
                Climber, Large-Flowered Climber.
                Yellow. Licorice, tea fragrance. 20 to 30 petals. Average diameter 3.25". Medium to large, very double bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
                Climbing, thornless (or almost). Glossy, dark green foliage.

                Height: 10' to 14' (305 to 425cm). Width: up to 6' (up to 185cm).
                USDA zone 3b through 10b. Shade tolerant. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Can be pruned to maintain a shorter habit.
                Germany - Patent No: 39 620 033

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                Good afternoon @Loofah this would be my personal choice its tough the and has the strongest scent I know of its just out of this world it does grow on a North East facing wall and I have it in my garden:smile:

                Compassion

                Orange-pink Large-Flowered Climber.
                Registration name: Compassion ® (Large-Flowered Climber Harkness, 1972)
                Bred by Jack L Harkness(United Kingdom, before 1972).
                Introduced in United Kingdom by R Harkness & Co Ltdin 1972 as 'Compassion'.
                Climber, Hybrid Tea, Cl., Large-Flowered Climber.
                Salmon-pink. Strong fragrance. 36 to 40 petals. Average diameter 4". Large, full (26-40 petals), borne mostly solitary, cluster-flowered, in small clusters, classic hybrid tea bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
                Bushy, climbing, well-branched. Large, glossy, dark green foliage.

                Height: 5' to 15' (150 to 455cm). Width: 5' to 8' (150 to 245cm).
                USDA zone 5b through 10b. Can be used for cut flower, garden, pillar or shrub. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant. Can be pruned to maintain a shorter habit.

                White Cockade × Prima Ballerina ® (hybrid tea, Tantau, 1957)
                Apuldram's Roses says this rose has dark wood and bushes out from the base, so it looks good as a pillar rose or it can be grown as a shrub...

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                    Looks like 'compassion' is a good option. The slightly apricot centres might go well with another rose I'm thinking of adding next to it; I've no idea on variety but it's a red climber that I took a cutting from one of our old neighbours
                     
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                      @Loofah this is my Rose "Compassion" from last Summer the true colour:smile:

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                        It's very nice Woo :)
                        Have you any experience of Rosa Claire Austin?
                         
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                          Good evening @Loofah ahh yes I have 2 in the memorial Garden 1 as shrub Rose's in a container and one as a climber :smile:,

                          Last year had a problem with the one in the container I stripped the leaves in the hot spell due to blackspot and placed it in the shade because it was wilting in the heat. It grew beautifully in partial shade with awesome leaves and growth. The amount of bloom suffered, but I eventually moved it back into sun and it put out a whole bunch of blooms. The fragrance is delicate and lovely.the only thing I don't like about it is that the blooms shatter very quickly. I wish they stayed on the bush longer. Once the flower opens fully, I do not touch them or else they will fall apart.:smile:


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                          White, near white or white blend Shrub.
                          Registration name: AUSprior
                          Exhibition name: Claire Austin

                          Bred by David C. H. Austin (1926-2018) (United Kingdom, 1999).
                          Introduced in United Kingdom by David Austin Roses Limited 9UK)in 2007.
                          Shrub. (Series: English Rose Collection)
                          White. Strong, myrrh, vanilla fragrance. up to 120 petals. Average diameter 3.5". Large, very full (41+ petals), in small clusters, globular, quartered bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Rounded buds.
                          Arching. Medium green, leathery foliage. 7 leaflets.

                          Height: 47" to 11'10" (120 to 360cm). Width: up to 39" (up to 100cm).
                          . Can be used for cut flower or garden. Blooms tend to ball in wet weather. can be trained as a climber.

                          ‘AUSprior’ is the resultant seedling from a cross of two separate unnamed seedlings selected from the breeding facility of David Austin Roses in 1999. This seedling was first selected in July 2000 from which bud eyes were grafted onto Rosa laxa. Further selections took place in 2001, 2003, 2005 and 2006 with each selection trial material being taken from the preceding trial, and with each selection trial increasing the volume of plants up to 5,000 in 2006 prior to commercialisation in 2007. Through this period all subsequent generations proved stable with no off types observed.

                          This invention relates to a new and distinct variety of shrub rose plant named `AUSprior`, which was originated by crossing two unnamed, unpatented varieties of Rosa hybrida.
                          Unnamed Seedling × Unnamed Seedling
                          Claire Austin is the daughter of David Austin.
                           
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                          I have Claire Austin for a few years now. Bought specifically because of it being suitable for shade. Woudn't buy it again and wouldn't recommend because of very short-lived flowers. They last on the plant a day, maximum 2. Petals fall and you mostly see those on the ground not on the plant. Otherwise it's healthy plant, keeps leaves nice and disease free.
                           
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