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    Today was a calm and sunny day, so I went to the local golf course to photograph my drone in flight. When I returned home and was putting the drone away, I found that while I was photographing the drone, the drone was photographing me.

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      You just don't know who's watching you these days Hydrogardener. :biggrin:
       
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        Nice clear pictures :blue thumb:

        I don't know the laws about drones in the U.S. but they're beginning to get tougher over here.

        Typically confused, they use a mixture of Imperial measurements and metric. You're not allowed to fly them above 400ft, further than 500 metres and, if using a camera on the drone, within 50 metres of other people.

        If using the camera within the 50 metres you mustn't take photos of other people without their permission (privacy laws) and mustn't publish them on social media (Data Protection Act).

        I can see them getting stricter and more restrictive and I don't think it will be long before they bring in laws that make you register your drone and pay a licence fee (extra income for local authorities). For commercial use, they are already supposed to be licenced.
         
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        That's higher than the 60m maximum height for kite flying (I've got a reel with 1,000 feet of line on it, but have only used most of it at events with special clearance from the CAA.
         
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        They're considering lowering that figure considerably!
         
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        We have more guidelines than laws; max altitude 400 feet, five miles from an airport. Talk of registration, but not of fees. I will be surprised if they do not attempt to charge a fee. Enforcement is going to be a major problem, as there are so many already out there. There will be many more after the holidays, as they are for sale all over.

        There is a new site dedicated to drone photos that was featured on CNN:

        http://www.dronestagr.am/
         
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          Four hundred feet is plenty high enough for me. As I looked at the photos taken at the golf course I had to wonder: Who the heck raked all the leaves? I sure would not want that job.

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            Great picture. :) They must have machinery for the leaves, I can't see anyone raking that expanse or using nets on the lake which looks clear too. :biggrin:
             
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            I took my granddaughter there for a walk this afternoon. There was one person running a large blower, which made a pile of leaves. Another man on a large mower was going alongside mulching the leaves. Nice to see recycling at work. I just noticed that if you look above the lake, slightly to the right of center, there are three white lines. They are a large waterfall in the city of Cohoes, New York. At one time in the 19 century they were an attraction in this area.
             
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              I read this today concerning registration in the US. It may be released next week.

              They said the recommendations would require drone operators to register on a website or via a phone app, if they own UAS weighing as little as 8.8 ounces, and attach their registration number to their drones. Two sources told Reuters the drone registry could ultimately provide an alternative to the more laborious, paper-based process for registering manned aircraft for both recreational and commercial drone users.
               
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                'ere shiney, when watching one of the countless police programmes (not spelling) and the miscreant objects to being filmed usually from feet away the police just say "It is allowed as this is a public place"? Cheers, Tony.:scratch:
                 
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                  Hi Tony,
                  I'm not sure of the law on this but I think it's to do with taking photos remotely.

                  It seems to get very complicated because there was some law that they were enforcing just a year or two back that stopped tourists taking photos in public places. They found that it was causing too much trouble and even photojournalists were being stopped.

                  I seem to remember @wiseowl having a bit of trouble with it a year or two back when he was taking some of his lovely photos on his morning walks.

                  They now only enforce it in certain circumstances (children in playgrounds is a good example).

                  Some of the Social Media websites will remove photos, if requested firmly enough, if they are of you and without your permission (always best to ask the poster to remove it, first) but not if it's a photo of you in amongst a lot of people in a public place.

                  There have been cases of private people, that have their own CCTV on their houses, having to make sure that they restrict the photo angle to only capture their own premises. I'm not sure how this fits with police asking for CCTV footage when trying to track offenders :scratch:

                  On a slightly different point. If someone uses a photo you've taken there seems to be mixed rules on it. I think that if you have posted it on Social Media then it's in the public domain and someone else can use it unless you have put on it that it's not for public use (people usually put a copyright sign on it but this doesn't necessarily mean they can't use it).

                  If you have been paid for taking photos of people (e.g. weddings, portfolios etc.) then you retain the rights to the photos and they can't be used to be copied or printed without your permission. So, if you have a wedding album and you want a copy of a photo in it, and the photographer has their name on the back (which good wedding photographers do) then you should either get them to do the copy or ask their permission.

                  Newspapers used to flout this rule quite often (particularly for photos given to them by local models for some publicity story) but rarely do so now (I've squeezed money out of the newspapers in the past for flouting this law :blue thumb:).
                   
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                  Good morning all,when ever I do a photo shoot of a public event I always ask for the persons permission,and have never had a refusal yet,even police persons are OK as long as you ask first;)
                   
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                    Oh, very PC - times two! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                     
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                    Well, I registered my drone today with the FAA. It was quick, easy, and free, for those who register within the next 60 days. The registration is good for three years and then will be five dollars for each three year period. The government says the fee is for maintenance on the registration system, and applies whether you register your drone or an Airbus 320.
                    We all know it is just another form of taxation. I am in fact glad to see it happen, as a local county wanted to pass legislation that would prohibit drones, and all other model aircraft, from being flown in the county. Now that the drone is registered with the Federal Government, and they have jurisdiction over its operation, the county is up the creek with their legislation.

                    The FAA issued a number, which must be on the drone, and a certificate of registration which must be with you when flying. It can be a paper copy, or electronic version. You may not operate your drone on overcast days, or out of your sight unaided by anything other than corrective lenses, or at night.

                    Here are the some of the rules you must follow:

                    • Don't be careless or reckless with your UAS
                    • Fly below 400 feet and remain clear of obstacles
                    • Stay away from other aircraft at all times
                    • Keep your UAS within your sight
                    • Don't fly near airports, stadiums, or other people
                    • Don't fly under the influence of drugs or alcohol
                    • Keep away from emergency responders
                     
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