The Mute swan fight.

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  1. raebhoop

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    Some years ago on Clumber Park at just after dawn...I heard the thud of a mute swans wings and saw this cob thrashing across his lake to the other side.
    A family from the other lake had made the mistake of entering his territory...On seeing the approaching male they turned back.Unfortunately the cygnets had entered the lake and were unable to climb back out.This left the encroaching birds unable to back down..and they re-entered the water to rescue their young...

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    The two cobs cruised backwards and forwards in an aggressive display...heads tucked in and each trying to look bigger than the other.

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    The dominant male suddenly attacked the other...and for a time the pen joined in desperately trying to retrieve her cygnets...

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    At this stage the pen left the males to it and tried to herd her cygnets away from them.

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    The birds fought for over an hour until completely exhausted when they eventually parted and drifted off into their own territories.
    I've seen some fights in my time ,but never one like this...each bird trying to drown the other by pushing them under the water with their wings.
    Usually one bird will back down within minutes...but in this case the gygnets being there
    made any retreat impossible.

    Pictures have been through my scanner...so not as perfect as I would have liked...no digital cameras in those days.
     
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      What fantastic pics Raebhoop. And the little cygnets are just gorgeous. Thank you so much for sharing them with us.
       
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      oh my what a battle!! - its quite amazing how they protect their young and their territory - bet the encroachers didnt make that mistake again

      I used to go to clumber park with my uncle albert when i was little - he used to fish a bit and we would picnic

      happy childhood memories of the place and people


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      Blimey,

      Made my fight with a swan look like a picnic.

      Nice one:dbgrtmb:
       
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      :rolleyespink: Fantastic shots.! You were so lucky to see that.. Thanks for sharing.. :thumbsup:
       
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      Excellent shots, and one in the eye for those people that claim that its only us human kind that is unnecessarily violent.

      I wonder if the mother goose was the kind of woman that scorns the male afterwards and tells him how disgustingly he behaved, or if she is the type that tells all the other women swans what a hard case her husband is:)

      On the subject of the brutality of nature. I watched an actual battle between a spider and a wasp once. It didn't go on for that long though.
       
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      Great pics, and it just show the power of the Swans. I had a few brushes with Swans while fishing as they seem to think an angler is a good source of free food. Trying to get a persistent Swan out of your "swim" isn't easy. But a friend of mine while having the same problem got off his seat and, in desperation, stood up, raised his arms like wings and started hissing back at the Swan. I swear that Swan got a surprised look on it's face, back pedaled, and swam off. We've been using that technique ever since, although it does tend to make other anglers give funny looks and a wide berth.:loll:
       
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      Glad to hear you use that method to scare 'em off..I know one or two so called fishermen that aren't averse to using their bait catapults..:mad: I know match fishing is a serious business to these blokes,but some are irresponsible...luckily only a few.
      You know the type...leave their line on the banks etc,the angling clubs hate them as much as I do.

      I have over a hundred shots of this fight and I'm hoping to scan from the negatives to get clearer pictures...you get the jist of the day from my pictures,but prints through the scanner do lose sharpness.
       
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      My dad keeps geese on his allotment and has done for many years. When I go up there, sometimes the geese decide to hiss at me (possibly because I'm not that much of a regular visitor to them?). I hiss back as loudly as I can, massively exaggerating the hiss, and leaning forward at the geese and sticking my face right in front of theirs as I do it. It amuses me no end when they kind of skulk off, trying to save face while at the same time getting out of the way of the big featherless goose that is daft enough to stick its face a few inches from their powerful beaks.
       
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      Could you come fishing with me, Clueless? Then you can do the hissing and arm waving while I do the fishing and other anglers will think you're the bonkers one:D

      I fish with some really serious anglers, Raebhoop, and anyone found messing around, attacking wildlife, leaving litter, or damaging the surrounding area get really short shrift, believe me.
       
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      As I said the Angling clubs don't like this behaviour either,but there are always idiots.At a small lake in Nottingham they have built small jetties for anglers all the way round.Each has it's own litter bin...you can literally reach from your stool and drop stuff into the bin without getting up...and guess what...the water is full of pop bottles and cans all round the jetties...absolutely unbelievable.
       
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      When any lake becomes litter ridden it's due to bad management by the owner or Fishing Club that owns it. Once it becomes obvious that a lake is being used by Yobo's and no control is being practiced by whoever owns, despite complaints, the "proper" anglers will not fish it, which is bad new for the owner and lake.

      I think such lakes are in the minority as a great percentage of lakes are commercially owned and the owners take great care of their fish stock, which is worth a lot of money, and anyone found abusing the rules of the Fishery is banned. Believe me most Anglers are conservationists and seeing the wildlife and having a litter free surrounds is one of the joys of fishing.
       
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