Tomato Legend: support or not?

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  1. Manteur

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    I am growing the T&M "blight resistant duo" Ferline and Legend. The instructions for Legend describe them as "bush" and "determinate", but fall short of actually saying that they can be grown without support. Anyone got any experience of these?
     
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    I reckon you need to support Determinate / Bush Tomatoes in most cases. I don't grow them, so I don;t know if a cane works with a bush? but presumably some sort of mesh for them to grow through, that will then support the arching branches, will do the job?

    I read that Tomato Legend has heavy fruits (some sources refer to it as a Beefsteak variety) so I reckon the fruit will break the branches if not supported :thumb:
     
  3. Manteur

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    Thanks for that. I've just put them out, and contrived a sort of wire mesh hoop over them that hopefully will support them as they grow through. Now to see just how blight resistant they are. Or not.
     
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    In theory determinates don't need support :thmb: but I think that the people who write the theories don't actually grow the tomatoes. :(

    In many of the mediterranean countries where they grow a lot of determinates they tend to supply the support for them similar to the way we support runner beans in rows. They grow a row of toms inside a row of canes that cross at the top. They then tie canes or wire across the canes so they support the bushing side branches. Then if the trusses get too heavy they tie them in, but generally they just support the original main stem.

    I normally stick an upright cane into the ground by each plant (in a row) and weave canes across them - feed them past the canes on one side of the first cane and on the other side of the next etc.

    The row on the left-hand side of this picture might give you an idea of what I mean (couldn't find a better one).


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    Thanks for the advice Shiney. That technique looks very interesting and I'm always up for new ideas.

    Can't say I'm entirely surprised that you feel the theorists fall short of the experience. :lollol:

    Last year I grew Super Roma determinates sans support, and..........they flopped on the ground something chronic. It was a race to get some fruit in before the dreaded blight took over, but on the other hand, we're still eating the chutney!
     
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    IF grown in a green house they certainly need caned, tying in and the side shoots taken out regularly!

    I grow Legend and they over the season, grow up over the roof.

    And they taste good as well!

    At the moment they are 4foot6inches high with golf ball sized fruit on them.


    I used to grow Dombito also from T&M, but they no longer offer it and no one else has it!

    Hope this helps!

    cheers
     
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    Legend are good for growing in a greenhouse because they are parthenocarpic (don't need pollinating). You can allow some side shoots but left to their own devices can spread up to 3ft which is not practical in a greenhouse. If planted outdoors you can leave them if you have the space and enough support for them.
     
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