Tree Identification- ‘White Oak’?

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  1. Kurisu

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    Hello Everyone,

    I hope this is the correct place for this post. If not, apologies.


    Would anyone be kind enough to help me identify the tree in these photos? It is in the Kyoto area of Japan. A tentative identification is ‘White Oak’. This is from using an app (for what it is worth ). In Japanese I think this is Shirakashi. However, I am really not sure.

    If anyone has any ideas, I’d be very grateful.

    Many thanks,

    Chris


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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I dont know much about Japanese trees the only white oaks I know of are American, although I do know of a Japanese oak, Quercus mongolica if I remember correctly.

    It actually reminds me of an Avocado.
     
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      I would have said that too @pete but the mature leaves seem to have slight indentations along the edges, and I think avocado leaves are smooth edged. However the colouration on the new leaves may help those who know more than me (@Silver surfer ).
       
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        Possibly Quercus acuta or Japanese Evergreen Oak .
         
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          Some flowers or fruits would help nail it down.
           
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            I googled Shirakasi and it doesn't quite look like it.

            Garden trees in Japan: Shira-kashi (Evergreen oak)

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            You'll have to wait for the fruit- if you get acorns, it's an Oak. If you get avocados, it's an avocado ;)

            It does look like an avocado to me too.
             
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              Thanks very much indeed, everyone.

              That’s been a problem trying to identify trees in Japan before. It has been suggested to me before that because they are often cloud pruned, perhaps they don’t always come into flower or fruit.
              This tree is in my garden and I don’t remember either. I will keep a look out though.

              Reading your replies has made me just think. It is not deciduous. Sorry, I should have said this before.
               
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              I should also add that some of the leaves in the photo are new spring growth. This gives them a soft, light green and floppy appearance. They go harder and darker green.
               
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              Its certainly had a pruning job done on it, and I would think it could have been grown as 3 separate trees,together, rather than one tree that has suckered.

              Are the smaller ones to the left in the picture the same type of tree?
              Do you get frost in winter?
               
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                Hi Pete,

                Thanks again for your replies.

                The smaller and thinner ones to the left are a different tree. They are nanten, I think.

                We get a very little bit of frost on certain days. I wouldn’t say a lot, but not nothing.
                 
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