WHAT a sickening waste.

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      People are simply wealthy and overfed. They don't grow to feed themselves, so they don't care..
       
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        When I had an allotment I saw lots of waste! The cooking apple tree on the allotment I also shared with a friend was infested with codling moth. The tree produced such an abundance of fruit that in spite of the maggots there were also plenty of good apples. I used to pick some of the apples I could reach & take them home & make apple crumble, or rhubarb & apple crumble or apple & blackberry crumble! Even though there were holes in many of the apples I never once came across a maggot! I did this for about 3 years!

        There was also an apple tree just 2 plots across from my friend's allotment & you could hear the apples falling off the tree & bouncing on the corrugated roof of his shed. He would shovel them up & fill a wheelbarrow which he took to the waste heap near the entrance to the allotments field & just tip them onto the heap (not a compost heap, just a heap of vegetable waste that the town council took away once or twice a year.) He told me I could take as many as I wanted, I did take some & I think they tasted fine. There were a very bright red but rather small. The tree produced tonnes of them! But we couldn't even give our apples away! Nobody wanted them! My friend gave several people permission to go on to his plot & take as many apples as they wanted but I don't think they did.

        The same with the plum trees. He had several yellow plum trees, as did the guy on the plot next door. He also had a couple of Victoria plum trees & a black plum with a Russian name, 'Black Czar' I think. The yellow plums I picked & ate as many as I took home - or more! They were lovely & sweet & with the warmth of the sun they were truly delicious! I took kilos home with me & made plum crumbles as well!
         
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          How many people would moan if they never had any apples etc to eat it so annoying wasting good fruit i would welcome having apples.etc infact they proberly taste much better than some of the rubbish in supermarkets
           
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            I find it difficult to actually give surplus stuff away, I told a neighbour they could come round and pick some blackberries, they haven't said anymore about it.
            People don't like imperfect fruit or having to pick it.
             
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              Coddling moth is easy to control without chemical methods. Annoyingly, very few people bother to do so. It just takes fairly simple hygiene methods to keep them to a minimum and even those affected don't have much damage to them. You simply cut open the apple and remove the part that has the area where the larvae have made their tunnel.

              Using chemical sprays can be expensive, especially if the trees are large, and should never be used when the trees are in blossom.

              Regular clearing away of fallen leaves, young apples and other debris around the base of the tree will help greatly to reduce the Codling Moth population. Firstly, they often overwinter in leaves and debris and secondly removal will allow predatory birds and insects to eat the remaining ones.

              The second easy preventative measure is to provide a man made hiding place for overwintering pupae. A piece of corrugated cardboard tied around the main trunk of the tree provides a highly attractive environment for overwintering pupae. Remove the cardboard every month or so (every couple of weeks from early July to late September) and burn it to destroy the pupae. Reapply new cardboard tied round the trunk.

              We have apple trees that are 70 - 100 years old and with careful hygiene have very little trouble with the moth. All windfalls are picked up daily and we have no problem finding people who want them. We just take them to the clubs we belong to.
               
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                I waste mine :biggrin: vlcsnap-2023-08-26-11h57m45s445.jpg
                 
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                  In over 60 years of growing vegetables I've never needed to resort to spraying chemicals on them. They just need careful looking after. :blue thumb:
                   
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                    How do you get the juice out, do you have a press.
                     
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                      On my way to work along a busy main road is a row of terraced houses. Built around the 1930's at a guess. The garden at the front of each property, if you can call it a garden, is tiny. Most are just flagged off now and anyone interested in gardening may have a few planters, that's it.

                      But one of the owners of one of the properties, at some point in the past, must have been someone with a liking for apples! In one of these tiny front gardens is a large, very mature apple tree, and not the small bitter crabapple type either. These are big apples and it produces a huge crop every year!

                      It is very obvious that the current owner doesn't care much for these juicy apples because every year they just let the apples drop naturally, all over the pavement and on part of the road, where that get squished!

                      I can't help thinking that this is a real shame, especially being particularly fond of a nice cool refreshing pint of cider on occasion, lol.
                       
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                        When I was young one autumn we decided to put the abundant apple harvest of the house we squatted (long story...) into a good use.

                        We borrowed a juicer from my friend's Mum, they had very old apple trees in their urban garden and a sign "please feel free to steal apples, however, a minimum of a bucketful at a time" and a basket full of carrier bags. :)

                        Anyways, there we went juicing the produce, carefully bottling it up and storing in the cupboard. We made nice labels too. :)

                        Then, one night, the bottles started to pop and explode as the lovely juice had started fermenting.

                        In hindsight, it never occurred to us to make free alcoholic drink! :doh:
                         
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                          That's exactly what I used to do! After doing that I cut them into small pieces, cooked them, stored the puree in the freezer & used it to make apple cake later. I did that for about 3 years about 8 or 9 years ago.
                           
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                            This little gadget is a Godsend at the moment. Peels and cores apples so quickly and is ideal for making apple rings to dehydrate. It's just a shame it can't cope with cooking apples (unheard of here..they don't know what they're missing :biggrin:). All I need now is some clever person to invent a similar thing that will do pears :ideaIPB: 20230827_192819.jpg
                             
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                              I've visited the museum in Prague too Museum of the Most painful Medieval Torture instruments in Prague :yikes:
                               
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                                My thoughts exactly!

                                If you stuck those spikes in the right place you could probably peel a human too on that thing....yikes!!
                                 
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