Whats this self seeded shrub then?

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  1. NewbieGreen

    NewbieGreen Gardener

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    I found this this morning growing up the side of my house. Its only 6 bricks high, but i'm going to remove it, and probably pot it.

    Any ideas what it is experts?
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  2. geoffhandley

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    Cotoneaster?...horizontalis?
     
  3. PeterS

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    Yes - has to be - doesn't it?
     
  4. Lavender

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    Looks more like Lonicera pileata to me, or maybe Lonicera nitida.
     
  5. Sarraceniac

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    Nope. I go with Geoff and Peter. It's identical to the cotoneaster I had for years. (But mine was bigger).
     
  6. Lavender

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    Definitely not Cotoneaster horizontalis. The wood's the wrong colour, the growth habit wrong, the leaves aren't undulate enough, and the stem doesn't branch out enough. Lonicera pileata is evergreen, unlike Cotoneaster horizontalis, so wait and see what happens to the leaves in a few weeks!
     
  7. wiseowl

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    I will Put my head on the block and go with Cotoneaster Horizontalis,I think the structure and pattern of the leaves fits. :D [​IMG]
     
  8. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    This Cotoneastor Horizontalis

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    And this is Lonicera Niteda,complete with purple berries...Hope this helps a bit to identify your seedling

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    [ 10. October 2007, 07:01 AM: Message edited by: Kandyfloss ]
     
  9. NewbieGreen

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    Cheers,

    On google images it does look more like a Cotoneastor Horizontalis to me. I suitably moved it to a bed today, and it had a really healthy root system spreading out in just the gravel. I've faced it the same way so it gets the same light aswell. [​IMG]

    Also these images look like quiet a few other shrubs around neighbours, which have the same leaves and berries on them.

    I wanted to move it because it was just round the side of the house, where i only ever see for bin day or mowing day.
     
  10. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    The leaves of the Cotoneaster are quiet a bit smaller than the Lonicera, if you look closely at the Lonicera mine has purple berries on it.

    The Cotoneastor will grow up the walls in a herringbone type growth.Both can be trained up walls.My Cotoneaster is growing up a south facing garage wall and at six years old is already over 4ft tall.I didn't think they grew that tall but mine seems to be loving the warmth and gets a lot of berries each year.

    Good Luck with your shrub [​IMG]
     
  11. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I think this is one of those occasions when if you could actually see the plant in real life you would instantly know which it was.
    I'm leaning towards Lavenders reply, but I'd say Nitida, there's something about those long new growths at the top that doesn't look like cotoneaster to me.
     
  12. NewbieGreen

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    Ah right, interesting about the growth pattern. I've not pruned it or anything as i only noticed it today. I dont even know how long its been there. The stems are pretty woody, and the leaves feel very 'evergreen' if that makes sense.

    I dont know if this helps at all but the bit where is growing was only 4 inches wide and it only grew in the stones.
     
  13. Lavender

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    Some support at last!
    Thanks Pete.
    I agree, if you saw it in the flesh, you'd ID it straight away.
     
  14. Horsham Del

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    I'll go with lonicera too. Don't think it's a Nitida though, the leaves look, too, well, wrong.
    I think, but wouldn't swear to it, that Cotoneaster has alternating leaves, whereas this seems to grow them in pairs.
     
  15. NewbieGreen

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    Oh yeah it does grow them in pairs. So may be its not the Cotoneaster then. I'll see what the other similar ones look like around me, and may take a sneaky photo of them even. That may help :D
     
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