Wheres the justice?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7838298.stm

I'm utterly disgusted, Out after five years and one out after three. IMO should have been given life sentences to be served in full, hopefully they'll get what they deserve from the other inmates.

 

I think it's absolutely disgusting and I bet they won't be on the sex offenders register either. This is definately a case of the punnishment not fitting the crime

 

The way Britain is heading, it is not politically correct to actually expect anyone to pay the price for their crimes. Criminals are usually just misunderstood misguided youths from broken homes in deprived neighbourhoods and it is all societies fault.

It is about time we got some morals back in this country, and actually make people pay suitable consequences for their actions. Put the in the busiest part of their town/city on a saturday afternoon and give them a good public flogging before locking them up for a term to be influenced by their victims. That seems fair to me.

 

Det Con Alex Newton said "A lack of co-operation by the community made it extremely difficult to investigate". She also stated that the perpertrators and their friends (who had come to the court to watch) sniggered as the victim gave evidence. She didn't think they thought they had done anything wrong!
Whilst I fully agree with your sentiments, this is not just a case of 'three bad lads', it goes a lot deeper. Although they certainly are not 'misunderstood', the community as a whole are certainly 'misguided'.

 

If I was the judge/magistrate hearing the case and there were people in the gallery sniggering, I would, if it was in my power, have them locked up for contempt of court. Oh, and get one of the larger officers to carefully try to prevent them from hurting themselves on the stairs, but the officer concerned would not quite have quick enough reactions to stop them from falling.

 

If it was up to me the so called 'Friends' of those accused would now be deported (if they hadnt already been). After chemical castration.

Id put money on it that none of them have never done an honest days work in their lives. As it is they'll get 5 years of free TV license, heating and free food, things many elderly law abiding folk find increasingly hard to afford.

 

I find the concept of the Supernanny program interesting. In it Suppernanny says virtually all the problems of bad behaviour are caused by mixed messages. The parents saying "no you can't do that" and then doing nothing or even rewarding the children when they do it. Suppernanny says that that actively encourages the bad behaviour.

I think exactly the same happens in the adult world. I have a friend who is a magistrate in South Wales. She says she gets very frustrated as the local magistrate rules are that no-one may be sent to jail unless they have commited a violent crime. Consequently after banning a youth from driving (for having no tax insurance etc), she says she regularly sees them about town the next week still driving. So they go to court again for driving while banned, and they are banned again, and so on and so on. Sometimes they are fined, but they don't pay the fine, so they go to court and are fined for not paying the fine etc, etc. Why should any of them take the law seriously.

I think the legal system actively encourages bad behaviour. But then we have the vote, why do we stand for it?

 

Shocking as this punishment might be, if would also give the community a sense of justice having been done (which a lot of people feel they are not getting with the current lenient sentences), without them having to resort to vigilantism.

There was a news item on last night. An ex soldier, who had fought for his country was killed on his motorbike in a hit and run by a failed asylum seeker who was diving illegally, without tax or insurance. He recieved a 4 months sentence but could not be deported as his sentence was not enough to determine this! Huh??? Bureaucracy is killing this country - how about each crime being tried seperately, rather than consulting the rule book each time?

 

Sussex, that story makes me sick. I watch 'Bordercops' etc on TV and the way they have to pussyfoot around all the time would make me laugh if it didn't make me so angry.

I can't understand why any immigrant caught committing an illegal act and that would include being here illegalally, isn't deported straight away. This great country says to illegals 'right, we'll let you get off then. Make sure you report every day to the immigration centre won't you'. Ha, guess how many actually turn up.

They also cannot be deported if they have no doccumentation cos it can't be proved who they are or what nationality they are.

Would you dream of just turning up illegally in another country? Can you imagine any other country doing all we do?

And, did you know for instance, if an illegal immigrant is caught in a truck at Calais by the British border people they can't arrest them, it's up to the French police. They don't bother. The French port officials just escort the immigrants off the port soil.

This is not a racist or xenophobic point of view as anyone who knows me will tell you. it's just to let you know that I feel the same as you do - I'm sick of this stupid country's rules.

cheers

 

I've always said that the best way to deter rapists is to release them to Joe Public at a designated time and Place (media announced), and a 1 mile exclusion zone placed around said venue. so the Police dont interfere

Once a few have been "played" with by Joe Public, there will be fewer trying to rape people. An extreme punishment? Not really, not when you consider what the victim has had to go through.

Those three kids will leave Prison in a few years time "all tooled up" with the knowledge to commit many many more crimes and bring more misery to honest decent people.

Justice?.. There is no justice and has not been for many years in this country, sadly.

Steve