which black and very very sweet grape to grow?

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  1. karaman

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    hallo,

    i have finally got a sort-of glasshouse and would like to grow a grapevine but a really sweet black variety --- am in portsmouth, south england --- second question, is it too late to stick it in the ground now in may?
    thanks, karaman
     
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      You can plant your grape vine whenever the ground ist Frost-free. So now would be the perfect timing.

      As for the choice of which kind to grow - no luck here. I personally own a Vanessa and a Venus. The first is rosé and the second one is now in the first year where I can expect a harvest (over 40 grape bundles growing).
       
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      I grow a variety (dessert grape) Suffolk Red and its seedless ... its a great variety as its less prone to get mildew and ideal for a greenhouse in the UK

      Grape 'Suffolk Red'.

      Spruce
       
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      The old favourite was always Black Hamburg.
      I've got one called Muscat Bleu growing outside, even outside it is early. It has a nice grapey flavour.

      Are you going to plant the roots outside and bring the stems into the greenhouse low down.

      You can plant pot grown plants any time.
       
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      If you'd settle for a red variety, I can recommend 'Fragola', the strawberry grape. I planted one out of doors here in London and last year it produced its first crop - the ripe grapes were small but have a lovely flavour. Should think they'd be larger and more abundant under glass.

      The Great Vine at Hampton Court is a Black Hamburg, planted in 1768. That still crops heavily within its own dedicated greenhouse, and has its roots growing out of doors as @pete describes.
       
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      I think what a lot of people don't realise is that to get good quality eating grapes you need the patience of a saint regarding thinning out.

      Not a job I have ever mastered, it's just too fiddly.
       
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