Brexit -am I stupid or what

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  1. pete

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    Freddy, you've watched too many fairy tales.
    Next you will be telling us we will all live happier ever after.
     
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      What do you mean “fairy tales”? You should listen to Yoda, he knows everything :heehee:
      BTW, have you heard the ‘Brexit Fairy Tale’? It’s one where everyone gets what they want...

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        I dont think anyone gets what they want regarding Brexit.;)
        And I said that right after that "person" from the Lords got the ruling that Parliament should get the final say, from that day on it was bound to fail.;)
         
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          I’m just a numpty, so please bear with me.
          Before the vote, lots of people ‘in the street’, who said they would vote leave, gave lots of different reasons why they would do so. Some stated they wanted to keep the foreigners out, others stated they didn’t want to keep paying in, others stated they didn’t want to be ruled by Brussels, etc etc, fair enough. Seems to me, that Mays deal pretty much fulfills those wishes. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not promoting it, just saying. Since the vote, it seems like the interpretations of what Brexit actually means is the real problem, everyone has their ‘take’ on it. Labour’s stance on this has been dreadful, they will vote against anything, along with the SNP. That just leaves the Tories, who have a tail trying to wag the dog. To me, the only way to get this sorted, is for a referendum, but not what you’re thinking. One which gives two choices, Mays deal or no deal. Probably too late now anyway.
           
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            Out of interest, what does JRM actually want, and would the EU actually agree to it?
             
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            He wants children working up chimneys, the sick and disabled to be locked away from sight, and to reduce water use he wants womenfolk to use communal facilities to wash the families clothes - these facilities will most likely be called washinghouses or similar; oh, and he wants it to be only men that go out to work, whilst women remain barefoot and pregnant at home, and none of those pesky foreigners to be anything more than visitors.
             
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              Safe to assume then that you don’t agree with his vision of Brexit then, whatever that is?
               
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                Don't agree with him, full stop @Freddy

                Thing is, I voted out and make no effort to hide that fact - however, for me it is much deeper than just the EU - I strongly believe that the whole current mess, Brexit, Trump, the goings on in France, Italy, Greece etc are all down to the same thing - politicians who are out to serve only themselves. Reece Mogg is a throwback to a bygone era, and whilst he may be a good curio for tourists, he certainly should not be involved in decision making for any country.
                 
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                  Worse - one woman was interviewed after and said she voted leave because she didn't think that they could win! And she was actually being serious :yikes:

                  Personally I don't agree with this miserable excuse for evolution being allowed to waste perfectly good oxygen in his respiratory system!!
                   
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                    If I didn't know better I'd say that you're a little undecided about him:whistle:

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                      I swear blind that I've heard that somewhere before :heehee:
                       
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                        Seems to me the whole world is in a mess. However, returning to the topic, are you in favour of Mays deal?
                         
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                          I remember one person (of Indian origin) was confronted by an apparent Brexiter, saying, “we voted leave, what are you still doing here?”....
                           
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                            I honestly believe that no-one thought the Leave vote would win. Cameron didn't. He only held the referendum to shut up the anti-EU faction in his party. And when it ended up in such a tight vote, he ran away. It was just hubris followed by fear.

                            Then May took over. Hubris lead her to call a completely unnecessary General Election that bit her in the arse big time. Since then it's been an utter mess.

                            I think a lot of people who voted Leave did so for different reasons, not believing it would happen. A lot of people didn't bother to vote cos they didn't think for one minute Leave would win. And I think, and it's just my opinion, that a new referendum would get out a lot of the people who didn't vote in the first one to vote Remain.
                             
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                              Sadly I'm not even surprised by that.

                              I actually took it seriously and moved some units of a managed fund that I have into a "Referendum Gamble" unit that they opened up. You could put in as much or as little as you wanted and dictate the currency(s) and the point at which to sell as well. All that happened was in the run up to the vote you shifted your unit(s) and they bought and held foreign currency and then at the point that you had opted to sell it was converted back to Sterling. I was conservative and could have made more but it was still a good return.
                               
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