Corona Virus Treatment

It appears that for the vast majority of people it is about as bad as a bout of flu.
Which is the point I'm trying to make.
Even flu kills some people.

 

Well this dense, self centred ostrich does have an opinion.
And its obviously different to yours.
Lets end it there shall we?

 

I reckon the Gov't are right to say - look you could die from this - as opposed to look most people recover there's no need to worry.

Mr Drakeford is coming under a lot of fire for keeping us lot in lockdown - my local Council have written to him and said hang on - everyone's doing their shopping in England - and that's not good for the Welsh shops.

Will find out what's happening on Friday - he's seen that the measures in England have not yet led to a 2nd wave - he needs to crack on with it IMHO.

The same bloke who wrote to Boris demanding an extension to the transition period - he's skating on thin ice around here.

 

I agree with @pete . If our governments had closed the borders earlier and used common sense in dispensing advice on how to avoid picking up the virus, such as a non medical mask is better than no mask at all, etc, the number of people hurt or killed would have been much lower. They hemmed and hawed and at one point even said a mask wouldn't help and could make things worse. Rubbish. Then they did a 180 with no apologies.

And this business of keeping a running total of cases- diagnosed, recovered, died - bothered me from get go and I stated this on an earlier post.

It should be reported as :current active cases and the total deaths. The sad fact of the deaths will not change but current danger should be clear - not fudged.

According to our government Covid-19 report today, there are 103 "active" cases in my region of 1/2 a million people-and once again, they are skewing the number by including 79 "probable" cases. So really, there are only 24 confirmed active cases- not including "maybe's".

And I'm going to guess here, but I doubt I am going to bump into someone who is seriously ill with the virus (coughing out germs) as they would be too sick to shop and would be home or in hospital under quarantine. So who's left to threaten me and mine? Not very many in our 372 square miles of residences, businesses and shops- that's one case in every 15 square miles!

Yes, I wear a mask when I can't social distance and yes, I wash my hands immediately when I come back home. Basic common sense.

But trying to scare the heck out of the entire population by playing with the numbers is nasty. And the government and the media seem to be holding hands in foisting this on us.

 

China did - they manufactured it and covered it up - hoping that it would go away - if you believe the media that is...

 

Personally I have found it strange that recovery numbers appear not to be in public. I like to see data for myself including statista.com
On these sites most countries have a people recovered value but Britain and a few other countries don't have figures here.
I feel that an issue here maybe that of the cases that unfortunately end up in hospital in Britain only a low percentage are making it through a figure the government don't want deal with right now
This also makes me question what treatments are being given and are they comparable to treatment being given in other places? Have found little information on this.
Other issue which I am unfortunate to be knowledgeable on is that covid is being put on death certificates of people that have passed away even when they have tested negative it can only be omitted if an autopsy is undertaken at which point this specific case was certified as pnumonia and no covid.
To me this is another way to skew the numbers possibly in the opposite way to cover the number of excess deaths as covid related ( the excess death numbers are soooo high recently even when the covid positive are taken out if the equation)
But I also need to realise that figures from other counties will not be spot on either
Lies dam lies and statistics
Britain seems to be doing so baddly at this fingers crossed things are more positive soon as possible
Little rant now over

 

@ARMANDII yes, I know that even someone who doesn't have it can pass it on, hence the mask and handwashing and distancing.

Let me make my point a little clearer. The governments are blundering and until they have absolute solutions they should stop the constant stream of generic garble.

As you say, the past cannot be changed so why keep blaring those stats and the other bafflegab.

They should just say: There are umpty diagnosed and active cases today. There are, to date, umpty who unfortunately did not survive and they are this % of the total to-date cases. In other words compare total to date to total to date data and give us the current situation as a separate item for assessing our "stranger danger". Yes, it only takes one but your chances if you distance, keep clean?

I have a fairly large circle of friends and clients and I don't know anyone who has it, had it, or even knows anyone who has or had it. We're just clean people I guess

 

I've always struggled to see the point of testing for the general public unless they have the trace in working order.
Test today negative.
Test tomorrow positive.

It tells you pretty much nothing unless you know you have been exposed, or are showing symptoms at which point it has a purpose.

 

My theory is ... stay away from everyone you don't know and be safe.

Had lunch out today, outside, six couples, all spaced apart (no masks because we were eating).

Using common sense is the key here.

We are fortunate here and have access to all numbers ... barring the lottery ones.

@pete ... sorry, if they don't give you all the numbers you want, you would want more, ie, what health problems does everyone have,/had, what health problems do their relatives, friends, co-workers have/had, who in their family have died from what and at what age, how many times do they have sex a week and with whom ...

My Brother in Law died Monday aged 76 from throat cancer but his lungs gave out from Chemo ... I don't believe he will be listed as a CV death (in Germany).

Life can be shite, as I have known personally for 2-1/2 years but we have to get on with it and look to the future positively.

 

Well, its not that I want all the number, I just want a balance to give death against recovery.
To think I want to know the ins and outs of everyone's life story is slightly silly if you dont mind me saying so @Victoria

I'm sorry to hear about your brother in law, was that your sister's, who we knew as kedigato, husband?

 

@pete I guess you look at Coronavirus Update (Live): 8,321,791 Cases and 447,662 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer which gives one most of the numbers people want. I can get more info from Portuguese sites, more local. To me, it is not silly by some of the posts you make!

Yes, it was Anne's husband. You may remember she dies in May 2014 and he still came down here every year. He had had throat cancer many years ago and it reared it's ugly head again a couple of months ago and he had one severe round of chemo which killed off his immune system. He visited Sis's grave daily then he found a lovely widowed lady friend 18 months ago. His only son took two days last week to get from Florida to Germany and he was not allowed to see him. As I said, life can be shite.
Not getting on at you.

 

Tempers are rising when they shouldn't be. Let's all call it a day and agree to disagree.

I had a bad day yesterday and got up this morning and said "Today is a new dawn and a new day" ... and it has been a good day.

BUT ... I am allowed to give pete grief ... just because I can ...