Separate Moan Thread About The Election

Just read @amancalledgeorge post, beautifully summarises why people should be worried and why some of us on this thread are so against Reform.

 

Yes, and one of my ancestors, with “a funny name” joined up to fight to help his fellow British countrymen and they Anglicised his surname to make it easier to pronounce. After the war he kept the “official” spelling. I never knew about it until I did some genealogy.

 

I wasn’t meaning that anyone on this forum said or believed anything. I was merely putting forward some ideas that seem to be held in the general population. Ideas that I personally don’t hold. I was throwing them up in the air for people here to look at and comment on.

Anyway, enough already. I have foreign blood in my veins and I’m married to a foreigner. No more to be said from me on this thread.

 

I just think people are reading a few headlines, make things up in their own mind and just get the wrong idea.
Some very bigoted thinking going on and its not from Reform.
Some fairly crazy accusations are being made and assumed or invented.

 

By that post's flawed logic, no-one should ever vote for a center-left party because they might eventually become Communists. Just completely hysterical thinking.

 

With all due respect @Fat Controller you have made a couple of statements that just aren’t correct.

Whole complexes of flats and housing estates are constructed all with utility connections & common spaces within 6 months to a couple of years depending on the size of the project. The government has information to predict population growth and data to monitor it. Where housing & services have not matched population growth that was a policy choice or failure of government planning.

This definitely is policy choice to house people in hotels, substandard accommodation and, unbelievably, boats for lengthy periods of time. The time taken to process entry claims is entirely in government hands and there has been an abject failure to process those claims in a timely or consistent manner, this has been brought up in Parliament countless times. There were also options to deal with these claims before they cross, in countries such as France. Again, the choice not to was a deliberate one.
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Well in a weeks time there wont be any illegal migration because they will be busy "smashing the gangs" and "growing the economy", I wish them well.

I've always wondered what "processing applications" really means, I assume just giving them all the green light?

 

@Fat Controller, they had 15 years as you said for 2m. I think population growth was higher from a quick google but possibly we are talking homes rather than people? Happy to be corrected.

According to the government in July 2023 2.2m homes had been built since 2010. They had committed to building 1m homes in that parliament, so 5 years, in their manifesto. According to Sunak they would meet that commitment.

The current Labour manifesto commits to 1.5m homes over the next 5 years.

So 2million was certainly possible over that period of 15 years in my opinion.

Also, not really in answer to your question but of interest maybe, at the 2021 census there were 1.5m unoccupied dwellings in England & Wales. Some of these are second homes/holiday homes but the ONS estimated 89% were truly vacant.

 

@Loofah, no not public sector but some knowledge of construction and a healthy interest in politics

There are lots of things that affect achieving what is needed, that’s what governments are there to plan & manage.

 

Not wanting to post and run but I am going for a G&T in the garden & to admire my petunias now so have a good evening all.