Separate Moan Thread About The Election

Patrick Vallance has been given a peerage so he can serve in the Cabinet. I really despise this tactic. Cabinet members should be democratically elected. Sunak should not have helicoptered in Cameron, though at least he had been elected at one point.

 

That may be correct, but when 2 out of 5 don't vote at all, THEY are the ones who are heavily responsible for Labour being elected - or Tories last time.
If we had three or four parties of relatively equal size, then maybe, just maybe, there would be more willingness of politicians to work together for the good of the country, rather than the good of themselves.

I would like to see the different parties working together more often - consulting one another. Not just when there is a hung parliament, but ALWAYS, no matter WHO has the majority. More might actually be achieved for the benefit of the people.

 

I didn't vote SORRY!! but we have NO person that is any good
Also don't forget the one's that vote for the other parties are also responsible for labour getting in

 

My favourite quote, from Tim Farron, after Truss lost her seat: "We have recalled Liz Truss from the field. Her work is done."

For only the second time in my life (and I'm quite old!) I voted for the winning candidate in my constituency.

Why is one-party government, where that party is elected by a small proportion of the population, better than PR, @simone_in_wiltshire ? The evidence (I've quoted some below) shows this not to be true - and not merely because PR is much more democratic.

Strong and Stable: the most politically stable democracies use PR - Make Votes Matter

 

The party system is outdated, IMV. All MPs draw a salary from tax-payers and yet half are hell-bent on stopping the other half getting anything done. It's just a pointless merry-go-round.

 

Nice one!

I must say I am thrilled that for the very first time ever the MP for my area is not a Tory. Not because of the Tories per se, but because a totally safe seat is undemocratic. Turn-out down here is generally around 66%. I imagine many of the remaining 34% have historically felt "What's the point?" ... and they do have a point.

 

Someone on the BBC was saying earlier they need to do something in Scotland as in 2 yrs there are elections there.

 

I like that idea. Give them the opportunity to contribute more as well. Then publish an annual "Philanthropists List" and have them competing to get the top of it.

 

@Fat Controller said “This was the first election my daughter has voted in and whilst she hasn't said who she voted for, she has said that she felt she could not vote with her heart as her vote would be wasted if she did, because we live in a 'true blue' seat where the Tories would win even if they presented a dog turd with a blue rosette on it.”

Well, I live in a similar place and truly believed that my vote would be wasted, but it turned out not to be the case.

 

Surely it's more democratic to allow the rest of us to decide what a small percentage of our taxation is used for. The billionaires and multi-millionaires could first put their own house in order to ensure that the workers down the supply chains are not exploited and are paid a decent wage - whatever country they are in.
Then they could impress us all by donating an equal proportion to charities.
They'd still have more left than they could spend in a lifetime.
Like that's ever going to happen

 

I wonder who will be the next Tory leader? The amount of PM's they have had in the last few years, you would think they were on, zero hour contracts.