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  1. Doug Harding

    Doug Harding South coast mr nice guy

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    I have contacted a number of seed company's to find availability .. Will keep you posted ...........
     
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      From a marketing point of view, what are you offering the seed companies in return for their cooperation? They are unlikely to do it for it nowt (they are businesses after all). And, quite what are you asking for? Free donations? Reduced price on bulk purchases?

      In which case, how to plan to "distribute" what you may harness? What priorities will you set on distribution? (After all, if it is a national campaign, how can you ensure an equal distribution? How will you 'manage' where they are planted and if they are planted within regulations?)

      Not trying to be difficult here, just wondering. :scratch:
       
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      As yet .. I haven't asked for anything or offered anything ...
      The rules are set .. Seed sown with owners permission ... Distribution of seed .. Maybe via post or local garden centre .. Still early yet ..
       
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      Ok, understand: just be aware of all the scenarios so that you are approaching this from the strongest angle ;) Forewarned is forearmed (and will give you the greatest opportunity for success)
       
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      So, to clarify: you have contacted a number of seed companies; you have requested 'availability' (which is, actually, "asking" for something :redface: ) . What do you intend to do with the knowledge of their 'availability'? Do you plan on selling the seed on? Or, are you planning on linking to the companies who have the seeds available? :dunno:
       
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      We need to be careful here. If we don't plan this wisely, its game over. If 10 of us each approach seed companies asking a similar thing but in a different way, they're going to remember, and they're not going to help us. I'd suggest before we go cap in hand to seed companies, we need to have a plan as how many seeds we want, how we will distribute them, what we can offer in return, who we will distribute them too, when, in what quantity etc.

      We might have to be a bit vague on some of the details because we simply wont have all the details in front of us (we can't know how many seeds, if any, we'll be able to blag), but we need as much detail as possible.

      We also need a backup plan. What if nobody wants to help? Does the idea fall on its behind? That would be a shame. We need to be anticipate knock-backs and be immediately ready with an alternative strategy.

      At this stage, certainly based on this thread, we have an idea and a couple of feelers have been sent out, but we're not ready to start approaching sources yet. We're not organised yet. We're currently still just a few enthusiastic individuals. We need to start pinning down some details yet.
       
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        Well as you can see ...I have been asking for feedback so the right descicion can be made from start to finish ...
        As you say if no seed available the project won't work ..that is the reason for my asking af availability
         
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        I disagree: if 10 (x social media kneejerks) approach seed companies, you create a "supply/demand" scenario; oh, they will help, absolutely - but with inflated prices! Win-win? Cash in? Kerching? :whistle:
         
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        I wouldn't think that there's going to be much difficulty in individual members getting Poppy seeds if they went down the path of buying a packet or two from Nurseries or Shops. Why are we going down the "Free" route so fixedly???. In a packet of Poppy seeds there are at least 300 seeds if not more and a couple packets surely should be plenty for a local area. Plus most gardeners have annual Poppies in their gardens now and they can harvest the red poppy seed heads easily. I don't think it matters that much if the Poppy is a double form so long as it creates a splash of red and can be identified as a Poppy, but I, personally, have lots of single red poppies growing in the borders from which seeds can be gained.
         
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          Free is the best price:)

          I agree though. But if we're going to do something on a grand scale, we'll need a lot of seeds, and a group bulk purchase to get the price right down might be a good option.
           
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          I thought we had decided to do things "on a grand scale" but leaving it to members to handle the obtaining of seeds by themselves?

          Would be nice if it were true, but it isn't. Buying a "group bulk" order is going to mean the handling of monies, organising the packaging and sending the appropriate number of packets to those members taking part in the scheme, the cost of sending them etc.
          It would be a lot easier and simpler if members who wanted to take part found out where they could sow the seeds without getting into trouble, and bringing the idea into disrepute by sowing them in the wrong places, and buying packets themselves.
           
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            Anyone else got an opinion on this
             
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            just bear this sowing window in mind folks,
            The best times are September to October or April to May
            Jenny
             
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              What Armandii says makes sense to me and makes the organisation of seeds less complicated. :)
               
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              I would guess that all major seed shops such as Fothergills and Thompson & Morgan etc have a presence on Facebook. If you could 'share' a picture on their 'wall' requesting we remember the fallen etc and if enough people 'like' it and then 'share' it it could be a great bit of free-ish advertising for them.

              EDIT: and obviously ask them for some seeds!:heehee:

              I would assume the more commercial (and national) garden centres will have a presence on their too. Maybe even if they did a 'spend over £5 and you get a free pack of 'Rememberance' poppys' deal, to them it's a bog standard marketing/advertising task to get footfall in the shop. To us it could be a great solution!

              I feel September is only around the corner...
               
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