3 Schoolgirls who have gone to Syria

But that is not self harming!

 

Yep, meant it in a Boris sort of way.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/30/boris-johnson-jihadis-are-porn-watching-self harmers

 

Blimey, our filter even filters links

 

Oh come on, when I was 15 I was working 40 hours a week for £4.
Wouldn't say boo to a goose, or you got put in your place pretty quick, no 15 yr old would put up with that these days.
In fact the law wouldn't allow it, its called bullying now.

And schools have always used parrot fashion way of learning, some might call it our own form of brain washing, but it works.
A lot of learning is down to the individual, you need to want to learn, but your basis of this starts at home.

Maybe attitude was the wrong word, streetwise? perhaps.

 

Pete, there is plenty of medical evidence which shows the human brain is not fully developed until we reach our mid twenties so these hormonal teenage girls are not capable of making decisions of this magnitude, they not even capable of fully processing the reality of this.

 

Ok so we should blame the parents?

Its certainly not up to the country to look after every 15 yr old.

So why can you vote at 18?

 

Yes I think the parents should take some of the blame but have ever heard the saying "it takes a village to raise a child"? I think if we had less segregation and more integration (from all sides) the chances of this happening would lessen.

As for voting at 18, politicians rely on those with with under developed brains to vote for them, how else did Farage get his job

 

Just a few thoughts.
The world is much smaller these days, and communication is instant. Children are and have always been impressionable. Britain is a multi-cultural society. There is an ideology war going on, so something like this was inevitable, I think.
I think it's easy to say let them get on with it, and don't allow them back. On the other hand, one could say that these children are victims.
I have no particular view, I just think we live in troubled times.

 

Think it is because, you cannot expect an 18 year old to lay down her/ his life fighting for his/ her country, if he/she is not considered mature enough to vote.

 

As an under developed brain, I can only say if those kids were black, white, yellow, purple or rainbow coloured I would still see it the same way.
Its not a racial "thing" its a bunch of kids joining a bunch of murders.

But as you raised the question of integration, ...... its a two way street.

 

and I made that point Pete, which is why I said from all sides

 

Not that I agree with kids being involved with either really. Maturation varies from individual to individual so I don't think we can ever have a safe call on determining the mind set of young people.
I would reserve voting or fighting abroad until the age of 25 years old. By that age they have more or less finished physical growth and have some life experience.

 

Not sure that I should say this but I was making at least twice that flogging homework to the other pupils!

Now I was totally different. If somebody came at me (verbally or physically, teacher or parent) I went straight back at them. My parents agreed to give up on the condition that I didn't get into trouble with the law and I kept my end of the deal.

Disagree. Having watched my stepson go through school I know that it is very different now. We had to understand the subject but all that is required now is that they remember it which is a very different thing.

Totally agree. At 15 I was teaching myself to pass the maths O level early as my teacher had dropped me a set for sciving. I passed with an A (one of only two in our year to do so) in November and then carried on teaching myself to pass the advanced O level in May (only got a B though).

Spot on! They "know their rights" now.

Summing up I was a little moo poo at fifteen. All that saved me looking back was growing up in a small town with small town attitudes. Had I been in a city or growing up today things would probably not have worked out so well.

 

Hi M, sorry prehaps I should have explained myself more clearly! Point 3, it wouldn't be right for them to pop back home & be allowed their old life back straight away.... They need to learn as do others that you cannot go disappearing then join Isis then decide that's not what you want, then the uk government spends thousands getting you home & that's the end of it! I'm sorry if I sound harsh but it's not right (in my opinion)
They are at a very impressionable age, as I said & if they have been groomed that does make them victims, however they knew what they were doing was wrong...they've run away, left the country without telling their parents so yes they do need some sort of punishment in my opinion (& it is just my opinion)
Even if & it's a big if they were able to leave off their own backs they should still be punished in some way, I totally agree if they are being held against their will they may not be able to flee the country & return home. I always try to see the positive side of things where I can, but I do also believe that you shouldnt behave badly & get away with it! my hope is they aren't being raped, they aren't being held against their will & they are alive & they will return safely.
This is a very tricky subject & everyone will have their own opinion, I've found it very interesting to read everyone's opinions.....