A Hard Rain´s Gonna Fall ...

This is the reality sadly.
No wonder giri is 'hiding in the mountains'

 

When I used to fly to and from the UK I was always impressed by the huge areas of open space in between the conurbations, yet 92% of England is privately owned, and you folks are allowed on the other 8% as long as you keep to the footpath.
Spain and Australia have vast unoccupied areas, yet everywhere humanity is crawling over itself in one densely packed city after another.
Industrialisation and Capitalism flourished in the metropolis, but humans don´t.
We generally live in conditions which encourage us to take advantage of others, whilst defending our own interests, to buy things we don´t need with money we don´t have, and to sell our time for less than it is worth to people who have more than they need.

Is it time to get out of the cities and follow a more agrarian lifestyle?

I may be hiding in the hills, but unfortunately I cannot make any claim to the High Moral Ground.
And you can have my wood stove when you prise it from my cold dead fingers ...

 

Let's hope as fellow gardeners that your stove continues to serve you well for many more years Giri.
Living in the hills suits me fine too!

 

Actually we can roam all over the best bits of Britain.
Lake district, Peak district, Brecon beacons, Snowdonia, The highlands etc etc.
I think we're quite lucky if we take the time to enjoy it

 

It´s complicated, I don´t have all the information, but this is from the Right to Roam website :-


The Right to Roam is really just a definition of private property that is different to England. There are still major landowners in Norway, Counts in Sweden, Lords in Scotland who own many hundreds of thousands of acres. Their ownership of the land, however, while it allows them to take rent, mine and make money from the land, does not include the right to exclude every other member of the public. In these countries, the Right to Roam is considered so important to the health and mental well-being of a nation, that it supercedes that peculiarly English stipulation of property: the right to exclude. Instead, every person has a right to explore these vast open spaces, to sleep there, to kayak, swim, climb, ride horses and cycle.

 

I can see landowners problems with the so called right to roam, you only have to see the massive amount of litter etc. Left on beaches every time we get a decent week end.

The problems that have been going on regarding sheep worrying by out of control dogs recently.

There are far to many pigs out there in society that will just trash any thing given the chance.

Illegal off road biking a 4x4s is another big problem.

It's the old saying, give them an inch ...............etc...

 

We've noticed an upsurge lately of doggy doings bags lying around.
Some owners take the trouble to bag it up but then throw it on the floor, often in the rural car parks where they've been walking.
We love pets, but i can't understand how these minority owners think

 

The emissions from cars is nothing compared to anything powered by coal. Yes. Lots of cars on the road equals pollution but the process of manufacturing a battery for an electric car creates a tonne of pollution before the rubber ever meets the road.

I too think that lots of meetings should be held online rather than government or corporate high priced help flying all over the place. And climate conference attendees - what a load of droppings that is. Flying jumbos from all over the world to talk about cleaner skies!

 

I agree with the previous three posts, and it seems to me to be a dismal failure of education.
No social system is going to work with people who haven´t a clue.
And, as Lady Bracknell observed,
"The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square.”

Education might even teach people to respect the unspoilt areas of Britain and do something to remedy what they have trashed. Unfortunately it is now delivered in Britain on a "Need to Know" basis, and it costs a lot of money.

 

on a serious note

Long ago there was a cat
Who swallowed a ball of yarn
And when the cat had kittens
They were born with jumpers on...

 

Great poem!
The up keep on stately homes must be horrendous.
Many are now National trust funded. Buscot park is a good example. Lord Faringdon still lives there, but the NT cover the costs.

 

So, to drift gently back to the topic, has the UK had the first signs of my "Hard Rain," or will it be when supermarket shelves are noticeably bare? Will circumstances encourage a Balkanisation between the disparate counties, as already exists between the United Kingdom´s various extremities ? Will your embattled police force and your traumatised schoolchildren be seen as having questionable mental health, (you can sell pills for that) or poor emotional health, which requires actual improvements in society?
Will the homeless and the needy be turned into a revenue stream for your new private prisons ?
After the past few years, my question is "How bad does it have to get ?"
I suspect that the answer, now that your "public servants" wear riot gear, is that it really doesn´t matter.