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A sad Paeonia Sorbet

Discussion in 'Container Gardening' started by kazzawazza, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. kazzawazza

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    Last week I purchased a Paoenia Sorbet from Kelways and it was delivered on Wednesday. Some of the leaves on the plant looked a bit paper,y, and curled and just hung. I repotted the plant at the weekend, but it still doesn't look happy. Any ideas what is wrong?
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    This is my Paoenia Sarah Bernhardt. It looks much healthier
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      Hi Kazzawazza , I'm not an expert on Peonys ( this is my first year at growing them ) but I was wondering if it's anything to do with the heat.

      I planted some bate roots earlier on and one of those went like yours and eventually died off but I left it where it was and now it's re-shooting from the ground, so I would leave it for the time being.

      @ARMANDII may be able to help as I know he's got a good collection and he gave me some brill advice..
       
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        Well, it could be a number of things, kazza, some varieties don't like travelling and will sulk on being placed in a new pot. One of the golden rules is not to plant them too deeply, an inch of two of compost/soil over the roots at the most. I would keep it in light shade for the moment and keep the compost/soil moist. They're pretty tough plants and yours should settle down and recover after a week or too........or not:dunno:
        Can I ask if you intend to keep them in the pots?:scratch: I'm not in favour of keeping such large clump growing plants in containers as they just don't seem to perform as beautifully as they do in the ground. Despite all the myths you hear about established Peonies not liking being divided and/or moved my Wife used to regularly move our Peonies when she wasn't happy with anyone and we had no problems.:snorky: Again, when planting into a border, just cover the roots with just an inch or two at the most.
        So if you bought the Peonies bare root it doesn't matter who the supplier is, bare root peonies have got to start afresh so they will take time to establish themselves, especially in a pot. They will probably take two to three years to produce flowers...........but it's well worth the wait.:gaah::hapydancsmil::snorky:
         
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          I do intend keeping them in large pots, yes. I spoke to a lady at a local garden centre the other week who said she has had a paeonia for well over 20 years in a pot and every year it looks beautiful, so though I would have a go.

          I bought the Sorbet as a 2L plant and not a bare root.
           
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            If you don't try, you'll never know, kazza. Peonies will grow, naturally, into clumps of 4' to 6' wide depending on where they are, in a pot they will be very restricted and will need feeding regularly but even so will never compare to that of a Peonie in the ground which will give around 40 to 60 flowers in a large clump of say 6 years:dunno:
            I tend to break all the rules and advice of the book selling "experts" so I'm the last person who should be telling some one not to do something:wallbanging::heehee: So keep them moist, and then after about 6 weeks give them a feed of Tomato Feed and they will settle down. I now have around 11 different varieties of Peonies, with ages ranging from 30 years to around 3 years and can't resist roaming from each one and filling my lungs with their scents. Let us all know how you get on!!:coffee::snorky:
             
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                I planted the Paoenia in normal potting compost, will it grow and flower OK in this type compost?
                 
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                  Ordinary compost general has enough nutrients in it to last around 6 weeks,kazza. So I would let the Peonie settle into the container for a while. If it is a bare root it will spend some time putting down roots to build itself up. Yes, it will grow "OK", but restricted, in that compost and pot, but I would not expect flowers for maybe 3 years.:dunno: I did suggest using Tomato Feed but,taking into consideration that it is a bare root plant having to establish itself, I would withdraw that suggestion and would give it regular feeds of, say, Growmore.:snorky:
                   
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                    Thanks everybody for the advice :blue thumb:

                    I sent some images of the peony off to Kelways today and they have agreed to send me a new plant :phew: :). This time I will repot it in John Inness No. 3 if it can’t be kept in its existing pot until Autumn.

                    It really does look sad today :frown:
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                      Kazza nice one mate and lets hope :fingers crossed: for you the other comes in nice condition...have faith with this one and why not put some mess around it to try and hold the stems up...it's worth trying :)
                       
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                        :fingers crossed: @Gail_68 . I did put some string lightly round the good growing stem to hold up the other bits but I think they are nearly dead [​IMG]
                         
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                          Oh don't :cry3: mate you've got me at it [​IMG]….I just hope the other comes nice...just a shame how that ones turned out, it gets you mad :mute:
                           
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                          I hope so too Gail coz it cost me over 20 quid :yikes: :heehee: .
                           
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                            [​IMG] they must have seen you coming :dunno:….most likely the ones heading for the bins unsold :loll:
                             
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                              @Gail_68 my replacement peoniy is being delivered tomorrow
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