After Brexit - am I stupid or what?

I guess if you want to understand the UK Trading Bill, which is now in it's Reading Stage, and understand what the fuss is about you have to read it or listen to what's being said by the Government and why they are proposing the Bill.........and then listen to what the EU is threatening to impose on the UK as well as their threats to putting a 60% to more than 100% Tariff on any goods leaving England, Scotland and Wales when it crosses the imaginary border in the Irish Sea which keeps Northern Ireland within the EU rules and accountability.
The UK is asking for a fair BREXIT deal or, if not, a Canadian style deal but the EU is intent on keeping the UK tied to it's influence and now using threats of extreme action. The Legislation by an elected Sovereign Government would only be used in the event of the EU carrying out it's extreme threats. If people want to interpret the Bill as illegal for political reasons or just for the joy of it I guess they're forgetting what our hard won BREXIT is about.

 

All part of the game I think - agree to something deliberately ambiguous, knowing full well that the EU would take the stance that they have as they are out for revenge, and then use that ambiguity to torpedo the whole thing and stick a couple of fingers up at the EU.

 

Are they though? Or are they playing the game as well? How many countries have broken international law over the years? Tons. Hell, the EU themselves were found to have fallen foul of international law in 2018 due to giving billions to Airbus.

Break international law (and it is questionable if it is indeed breaking international law as there are many who believe that it is not) and there will be lots of stamping of feet and fake outrage and that is about it. By the time the money starts rolling in on stock exchanges etc, it will all be forgotten about.

Have seven folk in your garden for a barbecue on Saturday and you will get hung, drawn and quartered however.

 

Not if the seventh person is there to be barbecued!

 

Well, if you can untangle the events recorded, and opinions expressed in just this Thread alone,, the EU from the start of BREXIT "negotiations" was believed by everyone and the EU to be in the driving seat and the collapse of Parliament into political deadlock for months was easy pickings.
The present Government was handed a bucket of worms because of the previous handling of the "negotiations" with little real support or belief from the Opposition parties, Media, Public and many on this thread, with the belief that the Government had to kowtow to the EU. The EU, still believing it was in the driving seat refused to go into further negotiations until the matter of the Northern Ireland/EU border was settled in their favour i.e: the border would split Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK keeping it in the Customs Union and in effect part of the EU.
Again, if you think back, there was little backing for the UK Government when this was going on from the aforementioned Political Parties, the Public, the Media etc, plus all the turmoil in Parliament with a freshly elected Parliament not sure of being backed by the UK itself. So, faced with the hard line of the EU, little support from the Nation, the clock ticking and the general belief in the UK that the EU was in charge, the Government was forced to agree to the deal. Things changed, politically, when we left the EU officially and went into the transition period due to end on 31st December 2020. There suddenly seemed to be more support from the Public and the Media although the latter always goes with whatever wind of popularity is blowing at the time.
The deal signed was a forced one, completely one sided in favour of the EU with them saying it was just an Insurance Policy that they thought would never be used.
We are now a Sovereign, independent, country which means we can make our own legislation without being accountable to the EU Courts of Justice for the first time in many years and are no longer subservient to the EU. The new Bill is, to use the words of the EU, an insurance policy that might never be used if we get a reasonable BREXIT deal or a Canadian style deal. It's not been written in a Pub on the back of a pack of fags but has been some time in the making and brought out for Legislation due to the EU making threats over the last few months. It's not a game or negotiating card or will it be the last legislation that protects the UK and it's future so expect more to come.

 

I agree with your post entirely @ARMANDII (not least because I know how much work you have been doing in this arena), but have to disagree with one tiny bit - it's not a game..... sorry, but ALL politics is exactly that, a big game, albeit with real consequences. Sadly for mere mortals like us, we are more often than not the ones who bear the brunt of those consequences whilst the elites retire to their library with a single malt to work out what their next move/crusade will be.

I hope that this insurance policy never has to be used, and in the event that we do need to use it I think it has to be borne in mind that it will be a reaction to the EU breaking international law. I also hope that this is the first sign that we may now have a government that is going to stand up for the country and do the right thing. They've got a hell of a long way to go to get the confidence of many of those who voted for them though and need to sort out a lot of the other issues such as immigration (particularly illegal immigration), the BBC and HS2

 

Simple enough fix isn't it, and obvious to both parties; on Jan 1 our food standards will be the exact same ones as the EU which therefore comply. We go through the motions of having them accepted as compliant which they cannot be refused being identical an all, and presto the UK complies. It's a complete non argument. Any future changes to food standards will have to go through the exact same process of assessment for compliance but I can't see an issue there either.

See, now why can't Boris just say something sensible like this?! If he explained himself a bit people might not bash him quite so often.