Amulree is gone

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    Sirius true.... maybe is just my point of view , in effect I do have all the plant I bought last year still in my garden , just because they survived his neglet :) and then mine

    Kristen , I was to norwich last weekend in August and tryed to stop at amulree , it was closed for holidays and then I remember you told me that Urban Junglke was not far away , so I went there and like I mention earl , it was a place that you do want to spend money , I was talking with the owner and she really know what she was talking about , the place is super tide and the display garden it`s amazing , the price was really honest and the variety of plant was amazing .......that`s was exactly what my miss told me ,,,why do you keep visiting the rundown place when you have this one near by ?????

    Well in need of new places I was to Costworld and Vale Exotic , Costword it`s more specialized in small variety and many plants are grown from seed by them , good honest prices and nice variety of plant , mainly rare

    http://www.cgf.net/

    while Vale exotic was more specialiced in big plants , I could easy have spent thousands in there ....the place it`s not brilliant , but if it`s a speciman that`s the place .

    http://www.cgf.net/
     
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      CGF has a fantastic list.
      But they don't do bigger plants etc.
       
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      Mowgley , like I was telling the place is pristine , a little paradise , you will spend all your money ;)..... the garden si actually made with the plants they are selling and will show every customer what you can achieve with hard work .... i loved the fact that you could seat down and enjoy a cup of tea with the surrounded plants and soft music ............ the tree fern where at a reasanable price , overall a great place for all the tropical lovers
       
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        Talking of tree ferns how's your small one doing?
         
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        Going completely OT , if you look at the pictures of Urban jungle they have loads of tree fern , but all of them without roots and this is why are cheaper then the others , mine has been with the base in water all summer as I was asking a specialist he told me that if the fern will not produce roots will not produce a new crown of leaves every year.....same story if you buy a big tree fern , will have to stay with the base in water or in high humidity untill producing roots .
         
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        With the benefit of 20:20 hindsight if I was buying another Tree Fern "log" I would pot it for a year. Much easier to get the watering right, at the base, for the first year's critical period of root formation, and the option to bring it under cover that first winter if the weather turns particularly cold.

        Mine, planted last year, have had very meagre ferns this year. I think not enough water last year (although they had loads), and I suspect not enough root formed ... it will probably be several years, and some good luck needed, to nurse them back to good health and an amazing shuttlecock of ferns ... hopefully :)
         
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          So basically a lot of hard work to get them going.
           
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          Not sure I agree ... I'd see it like this:

          Buy
          Pot up & Stand outside (or plunge-pot)
          Water regularly.
          Being pot & plant in for the winter
          Plant out in Spring 2

          There are quite a lot of things that I buy that I don't plant out in Year 1 - because I am not convinced that they will survive (plants are small / fragile in first winter / have failed to establish easily on previous attempts / etc).
           
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            Sirius , you can buy estabilished plants but they are more expencive

            overall I remember a threa the JWK made , years back , as he moved is tree fern in the greenhouse for winter and back in spring they rooted down

            Also to mantion Spruge and the fern graft
             
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            Going off topic here.....

            I have always bought rooted tree ferns. Yes they are more expensive, but at least you have a measure of assurance that the fronds they have put out were probably in this country and the plant has a better chance of surviving.

            Having said that, I see Seagraves have a 25% discount at the moment. And it is very very tempting.
             
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              £16.50 per foot ... I'd be surprised if you could buy rooted for £30 a foot? So if you manage to keep more than 50% alive, and doing well, then I reckon the Job's a good'un :)

              Having said that, I didn't look after my first two well enough (thought that "at least as much watering as everything else" would be enough ... they need twice-daily IMO, maybe less once they are properly rooted), and I reckon an automated watering system is probably the safest solution.
               
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              Well then I would rather get the one, rooted, and have a better chance of it getting going.

              My 2 footer I bought 2 years ago has done well so far.
              It was rooted, so I guess it had a head start.
               
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