Apple Recommendations please

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  1. JWK

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    @Loofah I got Fiesta, Egremont Russett and James Grieve. Out of those Fiesta has been the best, we picked over a hundred last year and still eating them, although they are going a bit soft in storage. James Grieve was a big mistake! I hadn't realised they were really cooking apples which is not what we wanted. Anyway we are stuck with it now. Egremont Russet has never really got going - it has a handful of fruit only. The rootstock is MM106 whereas Fiesta is on MM26 and that is just right for my soil and conditions.
     
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    We have a number of apple trees. I'm not that keen on eating apples and much prefer to cook apples but Mrs Shiney likes eaters. The two best of our eaters, according to her, are Sunset and Charles Ross.

    All our trees are between 70-100 years old. :old:

    Charles Ross is a cross between a Cox's Orange Pippin and a Peasgood Nonsuch (we have one of those as well). Although the Peasgood is a cooker it is also an eater if stored for a while. So it gives the Cox's a slightly sharper taste but gets much sweeter when stored. The Peasgood is a large apple so it has made the small Cox's into a large Cox's.

    Sunset is also a Cox's cultivar but they don't know what it was crossed with. It is much easier to grow than a Cox's and has little trouble with diseases. None of our trees have trouble but when we first moved in here we had to remove all three Orange Pippin because of disease.

    We have never had a bad cropping in the 50 years we have been here.
     
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    I've got fiesta and it's totally neglected these days, I'm not a big apple eater, it just gets on with it and comes up with a crop every year.

    It's a cox type and comes lateish but keeps fairly well,and again easier than Cox.
    Good flavour I think.
     
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    As the others said Cox can be tricky, if you can give it the right conditions give it a go.
    I like Discovery early, but short season, Spartan is also recommended. I have Ashmeads Kernel but the russeted apples are not to everybodys taste.
     
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    I like Laxton superb as an eater.
    Our James Grieve is a must for apple pie. It needs far less sugar than a bramley but holds it's shape well.
    (I can't eat 'Mr Kipling' apple pies because the amount of sugar is quite repulsive to me at my age)
     
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      Don't think it's age! :blue thumb:
       
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        @JWK I think I'll give Fiesta a punt too although hard to find not on M26. Where did you get yours from John?
         
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        The nursery I bought from was down in Hampshire, it closed a few years ago so that's no help!
         
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        @Loofah
        I had a look at a couple of nurseries and they were both out of stock of Fiesta on M26. However they have stock here Specialist Nursery Fruit Trees for Sale UK, Bushes Plants, Soft Fruit P&P is a bit stiff for one tree. Double check they are still doing mail order as they had a break in early autumn. I did receive a replacement bush for a failure at the end of November.
        I've used them a few times over the decades and always been pleased with the quality.
         
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          Thanks Nigel, I've contacted Chris to see if they can help. I'm trying to find a half standard on m106. There's a few places but they're out of stock.
          I think I might have to buy a maiden and train it myself. Still be 30+ quid though!
          It's infuriating as we had a brilliant nursery near here that I used to get trees from and they went bust. Why don't people use these places, they're amazing!
           
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          OK - reading this thread with interest. I got a Cox last year - remembering the pick your own joy of childhood in a massive Cox orchard in S Northants. Didn't know they are difficult: any tips?
           
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          I think the problem with Cox is that it tends to get disease easily.
          To be honest I never have known what the difficulty is but it's still widely grown commercially, but then farmers have the means to control pests and diseases that we don't.
           
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            @pete Ah - OK. Well - mine is in a massive pot (there was a sale...I waded in: can never bring myself to pay full price for pots) so if it does get diseased I'll replace it.

            You're right about the disease control. The only chemical killer I ever use - and that not often - is slug/control for the greenhouse. We're on a list to take orphaned hedgehogs as and when a home is needed in our neck of the woods, and the lady (a well known local character) is absolutely insistent the garden is chemical free - for obvious reasons. So that does mean either mechanical barriers, or just trying to have the healthiest plants I can get and living with whatever comes along.
             
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              My neglect apple trees have slowly become infested with some kind of woolly aphid, atleast I think that is what they are.
              I've sawn them down to stumps this year, 8ft high stumps, and sprayed with jayes fluid, not sure if it will work.
              But not expecting many apples this year. :roflol:
               
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                I'm considering pollarding my big apple tree as it's been left a bit too long and I'm not convinced my careful approach will work.

                Have just prdered a fiesta maiden on M106 from RV Roger. Will see how it turns out.
                 
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