Barking dogs

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Must say, I'd not put too much store to anything that the RSPCA have to say.

    I know they do good work, but they often only intervene when the situation has reached dire consequences.
     
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      @pete ah that explains why we both have such a thick skin and are rough round the edges then:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
       
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        My son works in his spare time as a volunteer with the RSPCA.. He assures me they intensely dislike these devices.
        Is the article you published up to date ? Perhaps they weren't quite do frowned upon when they first came out.
        There is nothing more I can add to this thread. It seems my comments are not in the interests of forum harmony despite its just my opinion . So il leave it at that...
         
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          Who? :scratch: His co-workers at that particular centre? :noidea: His fellow volunteers? :noidea: Or, the RSPCA as a whole? :noidea:
          Perhaps, the personal opinions at the centre your son volunteers at are just that: the opinions of the workers and not (necessarily) the stance of the organisation? :dunno:
          Perhaps, but the published date is 2014. Crates have been around for quite a number of years prior to that.
          On the contrary, your comments on the misuse of crates seems, to me, to be universally upheld by all forum members who have commented on this thread! Those in favour of them are in favour when they are used as they were intended. Those against are against a misuse of them and the misuse of them does include the RSPCA (and then there is @pete :heehee: )
          Your opinion, for what it is worth, is as valid as any other members opinion. After all, we are entitled to our opinions :)
          The only aspect I challenged, and in fairness rightly so, is when you stated the stance of the RSPCA (as an organisation, not in reference to comments passed at your sons centre) as a means of supporting your personal opinion. The fact is, in published form, they do not support your opinion.

          Do keep posting @Charlie996 your opinion is as valid as any and all members opinions :thumbsup:
           
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            Wooof....Who's barking up the wrong tree:heehee:
             
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              That's the difference "M". The workers......the people that work with the animals don't agree with them, they are the one's we should be listening too, not the people that sit behind the desks on 'the top floor' who write the articles to make the organisation look good.
               
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                I can't comment on that Sheal - I haven't spoken to all the workers for the RSPCA to know what they think and I haven't spoken to all those on the top floor who write the articles to know if they have spoken to all the workers either or what their personal views are on the subject.

                The RSPCA was introduced into the discussion but another large organisation, concerned with dog welfare, also provides information on how to use one responsibly (The Indoor Kennel/Crate - PDF)

                Possibly, none of the animal welfare organisations "agree" with them in a residential setting (top floor and/or bottom floor) but provide information because they accept they are not illegal, people will use them and do so in the hope that educating people on how to use them with the least stress/harm to an animal is the better option under those circumstances.

                Let's not forget that the rescue centres and vets also use them
                 
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                  Blast your music out really loud.. you wont hear them then... HAHA
                   
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                    Yes but these are temporary 'holds' for the animals and those same animals get more attention. We are talking of the irresponsible owners that buy these crates/cages so they can shut their dog in it all day while they are at work. I bet if these people were told the cage had to go, the dog would follow soon after.
                     
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                      And I think we are all singing from the same song sheet when it comes to them being used irresponsibly :)

                      As for getting rid of dogs ... early in the New Year, there was a short piece on dogs being abandoned etc. on our local radio station. I was completely :yikes: at some of the reasons, among which were: he wags his tail too much; don't like the sound of his bark; he ... (wait for it!) ...






























                      .... doesn't match the new sofa! :thud: :gaah:
                       
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                        That's precisely the point I made in a previous post. Many dogs are taken on because it's fashionable and they are part of the must have accessories. :doh:Which takes us back to Pete's original post. His neighbours could well be guilty of the same thing and have realised now that dogs need caring for and they aren't just ornaments. The dogs are probably bored through lack of attention which is why they are barking all the time.
                         
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