Best Supplier Of Compost 2023

Discussion in 'Compost, Fertilisers & Recycling' started by wiseowl, Jan 1, 2023.

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If You Had A Choice Of Compost Which Of These Are You Likely To Prefer?

  1. 1: 100% peat based compost

    14 vote(s)
    51.9%
  2. 2: peat reduced compost 50/50

    6 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. 3: peat free

    7 vote(s)
    25.9%
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    They will be using peat sniffer dogs at the border, to catch the peat runners.:biggrin:
     
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      @pete you had better watch out if you go up to Scotland! :hate-shocked:
       
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        They wouldn't let me in, in the first place. :biggrin:
         
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          I can't believe people are so irresponsible as to try and find ways of circumventing the ban on peat in horticulture. Aren't gardeners supposed to care about the living environment?

          Most professionals have already massively reduced their reliance on peat-based composts, and for two good reasons. One, they know the ban is coming and it's better to be prepared than to manage a crisis; and two, with professionalism comes responsibility.

          True, many peat-free composts are terrible. However, I'm on my third peat-free year and the mix I'm using gives better results than 100% peat composts. In case you're interested, I'm using Melcourt composts.
           
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            Wickes are selling their 100 litre Multipurpose compost @£12.50, with delivery available as per terms.It is 50% peat, with a blend of wood fibre (pine bark?) it seems to be (similar) to Westland West +. I have had consistent good results with this product. It does vary in terms of particle size, but this is settlement in packing process I think. Only a few twiggy bits, easily screened (6mm). They declare, and I agree, that it is suitable for seeding.
            My use is mainly for sowing in modules and find it adequate to raise veg plants to 6 leaf stage.
            With regard to the wider issue regarding use of carbon, I contend that the plants raised in peat are photosynthesizing and absorbing carbon, to be eaten/recycled and escape the entire carbon cost of production,processing,distribution, refrigeration,delivery and in many cases, cooking. They also do not carry the carbon cost of importation of ersatz material and its industrial processing. My conscience is clear.
             
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              Congratulations?
              If they manage to release a peat free mpc that performs as well as an MPC with peat and at the same price point then gardeners will happily switch.
              However they've been trying for years and failed so far so where's the incentive? Even if the price was dropped for poor performing peat free mpc more people would switch but I can't see evidence of that either. It strikes me that there is no real drive throughout the supply chain to get gardeners to swap
               
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                I've used the Melcourt composts, they are made from composted bark, the texture is good and no bits of plastic, metal or glass.
                Last year I had a problem with some freshly potted on plants not growing away in it, but that could have been the weather not necessarily the compost.
                The downside is they are not cheap.
                 
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                  Quote for Melcourt All purpose £15.99 per 15 ltrs inc vat Free delivery of 5 bags thegardensuperstore.co.uk (Local)
                   
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                    I did try Melcourt and found it did not perform sufficiently well. Also the price was prohibitive. I was buying about 6,000 litres a year when we were growing plants for charity and as all the money, after costs for compost was deducted, went to the charity it was a definite no choice situation, particularly as the result made the plants less attractive because of them being less healthy looking.

                    That seems to be a reasonable contention. Do you know the carbon cost of transporting coir?
                     
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                    Just to throw something into the mix.:biggrin:
                    I found some 100% peat compost a year or so ago and TBH it was very poor growth wise.
                    Texture was very fine but it didn't grow well.
                     
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                      Going back to basics, why is peat compost so good for growing things in. Had things not been grown just in soil for thousands of years?
                      Hydroponics just supply nutrients through water to grow plants . Why can feed and nutrients not be added to peat free MPC successfully?
                      I find all the poor reports on peat free a little concerning.
                       
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                        Anyone who uses JI compost knows they have to adjust watering and feeding, or it wont work.
                        Everyone is used to peat based multipurpose compost, something that at one time didn't exist.
                        I think we are just going to have to get used to different watering and feeding.
                         
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                        Who would buy compost in 15ltr bags?
                        For the occasional house plant maybe?
                         
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