Brexit -am I stupid or what

According to that, I should vote 'Green' or for the Brexit Party Yep....nonsense

 

Still thinking about putting that cross against the Labour candidate?

This is what the Jewish Chronicle think about Jezza:


If Jezza gets into power - Brexit will be the least of our worries....

 

Agree with you there @ARMANDII .

Corbyn has some wacky ideas and the reality is that it is unlikely that any of his more 'wacky' ideas would actually get through Parliament.

I really like Kier Starmer. He comes from a working class background and has done well - I like that.

I struggle to understand how working classes can vote Tory these days because I think the Tories are too far from reality - Rees-Mogg prime example (no sane person could defend the foul stuff he spouts), BoJo - not done a proper days work in his life, detached from reality. They are only out for themselves. Working class voters chosing Tory just doesn't make sense to me - I'd be interested to find out why but the reality is Tory's are only out for themselves as upper classes. No matter how hard a working class person would want to fit in to their "world" you could never fit in - you will never get an invite to the Bullingdon Club! I can't say some of the places where I've worked before (due to non disclosure agreements) but I've experience that has really widened my eyes to Tory tactics and domination. Self-interest is one of the key threats to ethical standards in public life and self-interest is what Tories have bucket loads of (don't get me wrong, most politicians are about self-interest - but have seen it first hand too many times where the Tories are involved)

I'm a middle of the road kind of voter:
I want UK businesses to do well, but I also want all UK businesses (especially the large corporations) to pay taxes (not escape contributing to the country via taxation like they are now).

I believe there should be a proper benefits system that is robust but fair. Not a system that asks genuinely severely disabled individuals to attend interviews to keep their benefits, but equally it really really grates on me that some individuals manage to con the system. The whole benefits system needs proper reform - not an "on the cheap" reform using private firms to do benefits assessments - that is only asking for trouble as their aim is to meet unrealistic targets in order to profit - that is not what public service is about.

I want the NHS to stay purely in house. I have seen first hand the destruction of our amazing NHS and the impact of outsourcing - sorry but it just does not work!

I believe in immigration limits but not because of a hatred for fellow humans - racism and the far right make me feel sick and needs to be wiped out, but i believe in immigration limits as our small island is so over populated. We could do with a points based system like Aus?

But I also don't believe that we should cut our ties with the EU. Trade reasons being a huge factor but I also don't want our standards to drop or fail such as health and safety (yes some people joke) but food standards, consumer safety, workers rights and animal welfare is are so important.


I don't know what the answers are but I'm struggling to work out which party I will vote for. Previously Bucks had John Bercow as speaker so we didn't get a proper meaningful vote for an MP - but I was happy that it was JB as speaker because I think he was very fair and pulled up MPs on both sides when they were out of line. I just wish the lib dems could come swooping back in and make sense of it all (despite their past form) but I feel that I should vote Labour as surely, Corbyn won't last long and someone like Kier Starmer will take lead. I just know I could never ever vote Tory ever again after what I have had experience of work-wise. Plus, many of them are pro-hunting and how any human can condone such brutality for "sport/fun" cannot be classed as a reasonable human being in my eyes.

I wish there was an easy answer to all of this but unfortunately there isn't. It's a depressing state of affairs.

 

Glad I've got that off my chest.

 

I'm having no problem as to which party I shall be voting for.I'm working class and shall be on the Tory Bus all the way...Just my opinion but Kier Starmer widdles in the same pot at the rest of the Labour party.

 

No disrespect @lolimac, but why do you vote Tory? I just cannot understand. Genuine question.

 

It's difficult to put into words @Snorky85 without writing an essay but in the short...
I don't trust the labour party..as far as I'm concerned they are just agitators and debt merchants.Corbyn reckons he's going to do soooo much for this country ..who's going to pay for it?
I know that I've put it in pure layman terms but there is not a soul on this earth that will make me believe otherwise...

Let's face it you can't trust any politician but I trust the Tories just that bit more.

 

Thanks @ARMANDII and @lolimac, genuinely appreciate you explaining your reasoning.

I agree Corbyn is an absolute nut and his way of paying for it through some crazy taxation (I think I'd heard a crazy one such as a one off lump sum taxation on anyone who has assets more than 500k?).

But knowing what I've experienced with the Tories, I could not stomach voting for them. They've gone too far - as has Labour in the opposite direction. All policiticans are full of BS, but ultimately that's why I go on the "human being" judgement over them - if they support barbaric "sports", killing for fun, then they are not human in my eyes and I won't support them full stop (yes I know not all tories support hunting).

Can someone bring some sanity back to this country? And actually be interested in resolving the mess and UNITING people rather than dividing them. UGH isn't it sad.