Brexit -am I stupid or what

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  1. Loofah

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    She's a politician and knows the game and what was facing her when taking the role. To me it looks simply as if she took a stance and has steadfastly refused to alter her thinking. That's not hard work, it's not courageous, it's simple bloody mindedness and is a guaranteed way of failing in negotiations
     
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    Thanks to my downstairs neighbour for throwing one of her tantrums and invading my home with her televison volume. I sought some degree of solace in my study, (back room) aka formally bedroom 2, dining room, library and lab.

    I logged into Youtube and watched some fantastic comedy, far superior to the TV programs. In many instances even the Muppet Show was left standing.

    Oh! sorry. I was watching some of the goings on, or on goings inside the EU. Nigel Farage certainly speaks his mind and can be a bit of a joker at times. He mentioned during his speil about Mr Junker, the voting that put the latter in office. Farage said. The vote was to be secret. 'Secret'...there was only one candidate, Junkers and in fact Unkers name wasn't on any forms. Secret!!

    A thought that I have had for many years. OK. Since the formation of the EU. Europe has been at peace? Now, should Britain leave the protection of the union.....(let the reader discern) Mention was also made to the German Chancellor's idea of a European Army. Where have I heard those words before. German Chancellor and Army?

    Going from the EU etc. I listened to the recording of the late Enoch Powell. Here I was reminded of world features I have learned read about under the heading of Biblical Prophesies.

    I concluded my evening in the company of Scottish nectar and a trip on the Eurostar at 186 MPH and closer to home. London to Brighton in four minutes.
     
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      Ey up The Prime Minister is going to make a public announcement at 8.15PM
       
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              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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              I still blame our lot.
               
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                Probably like so many others. I am sick and tired of hearing,'Brexit this & Brexit that'. It was a similar ear bashing by the news media during the run-up to the olympics. Let's be honest, all areas of the media really do 'milk' certain subjects.

                As has been said many times by the public. Three years and we are no further advanced. In no way taking sides but, I tend to see that the, shall we call them the higher ones in the EU appear to have bonded and are making damned sure that NO-ONE leaves. So whatever suggestions/arguments may be put forth, a three legged horse has entered the field.

                As I have said before. I hold no political favour. Yes, I have to admit, I admire and respect the PM. She. Yes, SHE. That denotes the PM is a woman. It is often a sensitive subject here in the UK, not only immigrants but also there exists perhaps just as much an equally predudice of women, in any kind of power. { May I make it clear here. Even on this friendly forum. I have been acussed of being anti- women. Far from it. I hate the way women are continually exploited} Back to the PM. In the house, the PM is verbally shouted down. She has no balls, she has no backbone. So, anatomically she has no balls but the emphasis implied here is yes, she has. She is a woman. She was not for leaving the EU, but she served the wishes of the voters. The HE-Men of the party soon backed out. She has stood her ground. How come we never hear any suggestions from other politicians as to what to do. Me. I'd simply say. We want out. Like it or not, we are off. End of saga.
                 
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                  But at the detriment of the process of leaving and dancing around to suit everyone when it's the PM that should be leading; I have seen precious little evidence of it. The PM has not at any point stated we're off like it or not, she's pandered to the political whims of the House and of the EU and to be in the state that it's all been left so late that even if they do vote for her despised deal then there will be a further delay to get it through the legal process! It's simply, from my point of view, a p*** poor performance. Her tactic has been to get any deal she can (and the one she secured is widely accepted as being bad) and then thrust it forward as the shining beacon of light and proudly acclaiming 'look what magnificence I have achieved!' while holding up a dripping turd. Voted down hard twice already but to just get us out of the EU the House will be left little option but to agree to it at a third reading.
                   
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                    Whilst washing the pots I must have missed something..in the back ground I keep hearing the words 'Operation Yellow Hammer'..nuclear bunkers and our military on stand by..forgive my ignorance but I thought we were trying to leave the EU not preparing for war.:rolleyespink:
                     
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                    I missed that bit as well Loli...:sofa:
                     
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                      Well Personally I got the impression her hands were tied once Parliament were given the final say, this meant she couldn't go all out for a best deal from the EU as she had to make out she was going for a deal and not threatening a No deal situation.
                      Now Parliament have got their say, the one they always wanted, the idiots are forcing a no deal situation.:scratch:

                      So let it be, they have pi ssed off the EU, and most of the population of the world, the deal might not be good, it probably ain't, maybe it can be tweaked after we leave?

                      But the idiots, want no deal off the table, they voted for that one, so which of the idiots is now prepared to go to the EU and say we want to reopen negotiations?
                      The EU would probably tell that particular idiot to go **** themselves.
                       
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                        She's had to " pander to the political whims of the house " because of Gina Miller and MP's getting the vote on everything.

                        Why should the EU give us anything, we're the ones who want out..... We can't pick out the best bits and say we'll keep these thank you and you can have everythong else. She has stated many many many times that we're out and that's it and no deal is better than a bad deal but, hey, guess what...... MP's voted that out the window as well.

                        I personally don't think we should get an extension. I think the EU should refuse it and then we leave next friday with no deal.
                         
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                          They're giving us to the 12th April to agree her deal. :noidea:
                           
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                            I'm surprised they didn't choose the 1st of April! :)
                             
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