Brugmansia 2

Hi my lady nice Dat it is very similar to one we call blackcurrant swirl, they can grow up to 3ft high the metel group are usually grown as annuals you will have no problem collecting seeds off them I know you don't like growing from seed but they are easy,I grew a type of Datura called inoxia and overwintered them no problem in the g/house at min 7c Ibelieve this particular one can go down to freezing,take no notice of Pete he is a self confessed miserable git.:hehe:

 

Walnut, your Daturas are doing brilliantly, they are now up to 4' 6" and flowering like mad. I have been sitting looking at them and saying "what a shame they are annuals" and now you are talking of overwintering them..

Is inoxia a true perennial, or are you overwintering late summer cuttings, which are still annuals, but split between two calender years.

 

Pete the ones I overwintered were grown from seed last year cut back and kept in the greenhouse min 7c they did carry on growing slowly it's supposed to be ok in zone 8,I am sure with the milder winters we had previous to this one they would have been ok outside with a little protection I will have to try some out.Another Datura that can be grown as a perennial in zone8 is D.wrightii this one has the largest bloom in the Datura family I must get some seeds and give them a go.

 

Thanks Walnut. I think what you are saying is that Datura innoxia and D. wrightii are true perennials but not necessarily hardy. Every reference I have seen has quoted D innoxia as an annual, so I am a little confused.

I know that many tender perennials are quoted as annuals, even by respectable companies in this country, which I find rather irritating. And I find American forums are the worst, with knowledgeable people using the words annual/ perennial when they really mean not hardy/hardy.

In the process of Googling I came across this http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6639 which suggested that D. innoxia and I. wrightii might be the same thing.

Incidentally, how far would you cut back a Datura that is five feet high to overwinter it, and would you cut back a Brugmansia the same way.

 

Peter I would agree that inoxia and wrightii could be the same the information I have they are hardy to zone 7 all top growth will be killed off and it will come back from the roots so you can cut it down as far as you like just give it a good mulching.
A little video here to show you why the Dats are called moon flowers and why you think the blossoms sit around in the day ,you will have to start doing night shift.

 

Hi walnut, its the miserable git here.:D

I was only saying I dont like the way the flowers look, and die slowly on the doubles, the singles I like.

I first came across them years ago and grew meteloides, its very similar to inoxia flower wise which I grew at a later date.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I found inoxia to be a farily upright plant, whereas meteloides trails across the ground, and can cover quite a large area.

Not had any dealings with Wrightii so cant say much about that one.

Metaloides has overwintered out side in the ground for me a couple of times and the second year plant needs lots of space.
I think keeping the roots dryish has more to do with survival than temperature.

 

Nice video Walnut - thanks. I have certainly noticed the fragrance in the evening.

Bob. my Datura leaves are pretty good, but my Brugs are also getting badly eaten. But then so is everything else in the garden! I am assuming it is the slugs.

I have noticed that the Daturas need support - they are really quite floppy without. But the Brugs are very sturdy. The tallest Datura is now 4' 6". Its having a race with a Nicandra next to it, an annual with a really sturdy stem and no support, which is also the same height. I am amazed at how much growth these plants can put on in one season. Its not as though it is very warm up here.

Trying to get a handle on the annual/perennial thing, I was flicking through a Martin and Rix book, which is usually irritating because it is in family, rather than alphabetical, order. And I noticed that Petunias are in the same family as Daturas and Brugmansias - I had never given it a thought before.

 

Bob that looks like typical Capsid bug damage turoble is the damage is done before you spray the new leaves coming through should be ok,you will notice a slight fuzzy coating on the Arborea leaves this seems gives them protection from a lot of bugs.

 

No bob it's fine just keep going as you are,more buds will follow.:thumb:

 

Bob this cutting "Apricot Queen" threw a flower out this week it measures 22".

 

That is truly awesome !

 

This is a "Sanguinea hybrid" and is a little more petite at 8".



This one is called"Culebra" a different type of Brugmansia it has a very powerful scent and long thin leaves not seen very often.



Brugmansia "Superspot".



Variegated Brugmansia "Maya"



A double pink/white I have called strawberry and vanilla.



An Aurea (noid) yellow Brugmansia this is about 8ft tall.

 

Wow, you certainly have some interesting ones there Walnut.

 

Lovely Walnut. Having heard so much about how to look after them, its really nice to see the finished product. I love the pink ones.

 

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