Bulbs - electric light bulbs!

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  1. JWK

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  2. Pro Gard

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    Pete, agree.
    Also, Ill hazard a guess that the so called energy saving bulbs are more expensive and complicated to manufacture thus wasting energy.

    What bugs me is the element of compulsion. Why should some loon in Belgium be insisting i give up a tried and tested bulb and use some dim old heap of junk at twice the price.

    I replaced a bulb in the hall at home and noticed that it was manufactured in 1974, how many modern energy bulbs will last this long. In reality these things are so dim that you need more lights rather than less thus defeating the point of the change over.
     
  3. Sussexgardener

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    I don't mind using energy saving light bulbs, providing they are safe to recycle and don't cost an arm and a leg.

    What I do object to is having a faceless bureaucrat in Brussels telling us we aren't allowed to use anything else apart from energy saving light bulbs, especially as they don't all work as well as the regular tungsten bulbs.
     
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    Its just a political exercise, the EU and our govt can tick off another thing from their to-do list:

    Save the planet from Global Warming by forcing everyone to use energy saving bulbs: check

    As I said above; energy saving bulbs save us about 1p an hour for the rooms we light - so thats about 6 or 7 p a day. As they only last the same as ordinary tungsten (or less in my experience) and given the extra cost to buy them and the extra energy costs to manufacture we might just about break even in both money and energy savings :(

    Thats not taking into account the environmental problems we are storing up for the future, as no-one yet wants to recycle these things - so all this mercury is going to end up in landfill. Great :(
     
  5. Mikkel

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    I knew I would find it again.

    Goodbye to my England, So long my old friend

    Your days are numbered, being brought to an end


    To be Scottish, Irish or Welsh that's fine


    But don't say you're English, that's way out of line.



    The French and the Germans may call themselves such



    So may Norwegians, the Swedes and the Dutch


    You can say you are Russian or maybe a Dane


    But don't say you're English ever again.


    At Broadcasting House the word is taboo



    In Brussels it's s****ped, in Parliament too



    Even schools are affected, staff do as they're told





    They must not teach children about England of old.

    Writers like Shakespeare, Milton and Shaw



    The pupils don't learn about them anymore



    How about Agincourt, Hastings, Arnhem or Mons ?



    When England lost hosts of her very brave sons.



    We are not Europeans, how can we be?



    Europe is miles away over the sea



    We're the English from England, let's all be proud



    Stand up and be counted - Shout it out loud !



    Let's tell our Government and Brussels too



    We're proud of our heritage and the Red, White and Blue



    Fly the flag of Saint George or the Union Jack



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    Even though I'm from Northern Ireland, excellent!
     
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    So true Mikkel!
    The pc brigade, our present "illustrious" government and the EU have a lot to answer for!






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    I've used these bulbs for almost 30 years and been extremely happy with them. However, I do use daylight quality bulbs that are suitable for treating SADD. Their life span is even better than with traditional bulbs, imo, and not at all 'dim'.

    I get them from Ecozone



    BioBulb®

    The Daylight Bulb BB15 100w bayonet

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    The BioBulb® is a full spectrum daylight bulb that uses 75% less energy than a standard light bulb. The BioBulb® 100w (using 25w) bulb issues a massive 1750 lumens (a lumen is a way of measuring natural light, and a standard 60w bulb only manages 600 lumens, so that's over three times as much) and closely replicates sunlight, which may improve mood, nighttime sleep and daytime energy. Anyone prone to Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) or who simply longs for summer may find that its flicker-free white light helps to restore their natural equilibrium. They are ideal for reading and most pleasing to the eye. Our BioBulb® also radiates less heat than a standard bulb and lasts around 10,000 hours. Length 100w 13.5cm, 60w 12.5cm. Colour rendering index of 85. Available in Bayonet and Screw fittings.

    1 bulb is £14.63
    5 £48.89 (= £9.85 each)
     
  9. Larkshall

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    More expensive? What at 20p each, you must get some very cheap incandescent lamps or have you not bought any for the last 30 years?

    We have replaced all except for one incandescent lamp (in a shed and seldom used) and two fluorescent tubes. Mostly Philips.
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  10. Pro Gard

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    In honhesty i get them free as one of my freinds is an electrician!!!!
     
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    America is even further away but most of you try to Ape them and say "How high" when they say "Jump".
     
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    Slightly concerning my front light works on a sensor and needs a load of 30 or 40w or more otherwise it doesn't work. I can't see how an energy saving light can be made to work? I only bought it about 1 year ago and it was reasonably expensive about £25 I don't fancy replacing it. The beurocrats should have made equipment compatable with energy saving lights for a few years so we don't have to throw it all in the bin - very poor planning. The irony is practically everywhere else I have energy saving lamps except my floodlight for which there is no good energy saving alternative yet. There should be an excemption for people who have no choice but to use tungsten bulbs.
     
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    "except my floodlight for which there is no good energy saving alternative yet"

    You can get Long Life / Low Power CFL bulbs - dunno if they will fit your lamp though. 26W CFL floodlights are about £25 (housing and bulb etc.)
     
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    Good point about the sensor lights. We have them all round the house. We live rurally and it is very dark and they are my signal someone is about.
    i am stock piling those little candle bulbs. I have a few candelabra type fittings and those energy savers would look just hideous in them. The thing is we don't use overheads too much anyway and have energy savers in the lamps where they don't show. They are really ugly. I know people will say 'so what they are saving energy' but I am sorry to me aesthetics matter.
     
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    "I have a few candelabra type fittings and those energy savers would look just hideous in them."

    We have energy saving candelabra bulbs. I found some online here http://www.thelightbulb.co.uk/product/list.php?cat=127&green=1

    "They are really ugly"

    We have covers over ours - I have no idea where they came from, they were here when we moved in. Makes them look like normal bulbs, important in our instance as they have on-the-bulb lamp shades
     
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