Bulbs - electric light bulbs!

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  1. men8ifr

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    Yes I've got 3 52w energy saving floodlights - sadly the light they put out is very poor compared to 500w halogen floodlights. I'd guess you would need around 200w of energy saving floodlight to compare to a 500w halogen (normal) floodlight.
     
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    "I'd guess you would need around 200w of energy saving floodlight to compare to a 500w"

    The stated light output is about 5-fold (i.e. 10 watt energy saving bulb gives equivalent of 50 watt incandescent), but I don't know anyone who thinks the energy saving bulbs are "as bright", so I reckon your ratio of 2.5 is in the right ballpark.

    At a previous house we had an outside lamp on all night - it was similar style to streetlamps, I'm temtped to say Sodium, but I don't think it was. I wonder how they compare running dusk-to-dawn to a number of 5-minute (say) busts from a 500w Hallogen?

    Dur to my Mean Green phase we currently no longer use any outside lights (other than some manually operated "welcome the visitors" lights), and I think the place looks like a morgue as a consequence. I'm contempaling some Solar "lantern style" lights, but I would consider a dusk-to-dawn, or perhaps dusk-to-midnight, light if it was frugal enough.
     
  3. Steve R

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    Just a little info to add here, this is part of a conversation with someone in Norway?

    "Where do you recycle these new Lightbulbs"
    "they go in the poisons environment station"
    "Do you have to pay for that?"
    "No, thats free, the Miljøstasjon is at the Shell garrage, you just as for the key and you sort all batteries, small electricals, bleaches and chemicals and paints, and light bulbs and florescent strip lights etc
    Stops all that kind of thing going into the environment."



    Steve...:)
     
  4. Jack by the hedge

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  5. JWK

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    Interesting Steve, makes me wonder if it will free for us in the UK to recycle them. Actually I can guess the answer - whether we pay at the recycling point or via some stealth tax it will not be free. And for those who choose to dump them without paying the tax you will be investigated and prosecuted by the newly recruited army of recycling inspectors paid for by us taxpayers.

    It's just a political exercise disguised as a green initiative.
     
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    1 bulb is £14.63
    5 £48.89 (= £9.85 each)[/quote]

    Cricky! some wealthy people on here!

    Cheers!
     
  7. JWK

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    :lollol:

    Agreed - "Energy Saving" doesn't necessarily mean "Money Saving"!

    There are some deals around at less than Harrods prices though. Homebase were selling Philips 11w energy saving bulbs five for 50p just before Christmas and I think B&Q/Tesco have a similar deal.
     
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    " Cricky! some wealthy people on here!"

    They are specifically suitable for SADD though ... I don't suppose the "North Light" tungstens (or whatever the old fashioned equivalent were) were dirt cheap either :(, were they?
     
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    :idea: Yep , use 'em here JJordie , but can't say I like them . Not much good for close work ie. Sewing etc. :idea: ( The Smilie got more light to it lol.)
     
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  11. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    And I bet you can all guess as to which Idiotic party got us into the mess of the eighties with their 3,000,000 unemployed and 17% interest rates etc etc etc....:snz:

    I think all the ones that keep trying to wind everyone up on here should go straight down to the Army Careers office and sign up,perhaps it might quieten them down a bit:wink::snz:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/june/6/newsid_4586000/4586791.stm
     
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    That's no good, the army don't want them, they want intelligent people these days.
     
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    Until 27th Jan Tesco have an offer in store where you get 5 energy saving light bulbs for 40p.

    You can get 9w, 11w, 15w and 20w bulbs (equivalent to 40W to 100W old-style bulbs).

    Then when you take them to the till the VAT changes are applied too so they are only 29p - less than 6p each!

    (They take the VAT off the full original price :scratch: :wink:)

    At this price they are practically giving them away - So no excuses for not trying these out folks - unless you don't like tesco :)
     
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    I have had a tangential thought.

    Low Energy bulbs are 10,000-15,000 hours (some are 8,000 hours). Old ones were about 1,000 hours. In an area of high-ish use they will get used for about 2,000 hours per year - say 5 years life; they will last even longer where they are not used much.

    So I reckon that better quality light (or shorter lifespan cheapies) may be the best choice. Perhaps some of the comments about "poor quality light" are from the First Generation long life bulbs - which folk are now stuck with for 5 years or more ...
     
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    I think you're right about those first generation bulbs kristen. I changed over nearly all ours to energy saving when they first became affordable a few years back now. That could explain why we suffer with the buzzing and poor light quality whilst other people on here are quite happy with them.

    Note to self: swap out the old ones and try these newer cheaper ones.
     
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