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  1. Freddy

    Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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    I really fancied the Edge, lovely car. It was though a bit out of my league, in practical terms.
     
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      Handsome machine the Edge; @Sheal - you live in the frozen North! Imagine starting the car, having it warm up and defrost in the drive, then you wander out and get into a toasty car to head off wherever you are going..... ;)

      Always remember, it is the car makers job to give you solutions to problems that you never knew you had.
       
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      • Freddy

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        I hear you! My Kuga is stuffed with tech, like a lot of cars these days. I was bewildered by all that was on offer at my fingertips. It’s all very nice, but really frightens me...more to go wrong:thud:
         
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          Give it a couple of years, and they will probably include a condenser system that bottles the fumes until the car is out in the open air before releasing them....... :snorky:
           
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            That is the worry - for me, it is all the screens that are relied upon. You can bet your left arm that none of them will be cheap or easy to replace, and it is things like this that will see cars scrapped early simply because they are deemed to be too expensive to fix.
             
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              I can not get my head around Electric cars
              Just look at any petrol/diesel forecourt and they are queued up, taking about five to ten minutes each to fill and pay,
              Now imagine if they were all electric, where would you get a car park big enough for them all to park up and charge for an hour ?
              You could charge them overnight at home but you can not charge them from your home 35amp ring main, you need a heavier circuit, Then what about the millions of people who live in a terrace, do they lay an extension cable over the path all night ?
               
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                IMO, cars have never been as reliable as they are today. Back in the day, it was commonplace to carry a toolbox in the boot, I did. The downside now is the notion to replace, rather than fix, or if it can be fixed, specialists (specialist equipment) are required.
                I wouldn’t go back to the days of lack of reliability, my knuckles couldn’t stand it, but the notion of paying around £1,000 for a new particulate filter fills me with dread.
                 
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                  Bring back the starting handles:heehee:
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                    ....And a dislocated shoulder! :snorky:
                     
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                      My late father's first car, a Ford Escort taken at Combe Martin, Devon. Three forward gears and reverse gear for Porlock Hill. That was the only way up it back then. :biggrin:

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                        Love the heated seats in the Mitsubishi , must be an age thing :blue thumb:
                        And as Freddie said above , they still cannot determine the pros and cons of petrol versus diesel. This week petrol has been deemed to be the bad boy. Also the best thing for the environment is retirement. Not been on the motorway for a month and a tankful of diesel is going to last 4 weeks.:biggrin: Going up to the caravan on Monday to give it a blast and clean the particulate filter.
                         
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                          Have a great time Harry:thumbsup: Can’t wait to get back on the road again (touring) :)
                           
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                            Question!!!

                            With the use of ad-blue with diesels, what other nastys are there going into the air as ad-blue is basicly liquid urea?
                             
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                              This is a very contentious issue amongst engineers and scientists (notice I left out politicians :heehee:). There's no argument over the fact that diesel emits less CO and CO2 and petrol emits less NOX (there are lots of other emissions). The problem comes with the emission of particulates. Although diesel cars have particulate filters they still emit a lot more than petrol and the particulates are more directly harmful to the health of people - especially in towns and cities.

                              The particulate filters are quite good but can get clogged if the car doesn't get a good, fast run every so often. I understand that unclogging a filter can be an expensive thing if it gets too clogged.

                              Electric cars:- there are a number of solutions put forward for solving the concerns about how you can charge the cars if you have no parking facility alongside your property or for charging vehicles owned by people who live in flats etc. None of these have been brought into effect yet.

                              Apart from the possible major problems that @Fat Controller gave for the disposal and/or dangers of batteries there is the simple fact that, at the moment, our power stations can't produce enough electricity to cope with a lot of electric cars needing to be charge and the 'experts' don't seem to take into account that power stations are one of the biggest emitters of toxic (debateable) gasses.

                              Solution:- walk everywhere :dbgrtmb:
                               
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                                Then, when we have all bought electric cars, and governments realise how much revenue they are losing, they will be demonised so that they can impose environmental taxes on them. Thats already the case in Norway.

                                As if we dont have enough taxes to pay on vehicles, some governments are now looking into the amount of "micro plastic emissions" caused by them. I'm willing to bet nobody on here has even thought of that.

                                Finally. Automotive engineers have known for years that it is both possible and practical to have a combustion engine that produces zero emissions. How convenient it is to have legislation that prevent these being used!
                                 
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