central heating failure anyone any experience of new install

Bathroom towel rails/rads are normally semi-independant of the rest of the radiators as they are connected so they will operate from either/both the space or water heating systems

 

Didn't complete that post ....

What I was going to add was that any expansion pipe from the bathroom radiator could only have been some sort of secondary vent pipe and there should also have been a larger one for the rest of the heating systems.

 

Thanks all
I went in the attic this morning, and they have cut and capped the expansion pipe from the radiator/towel rail
I have the original installer of the boiler, the one that changed all the parts recently, coming on Wednesday, he says he will be able to set it up working and I was not to worry about anything MAJOR He does not know about the header tank yet (though it is full of water and connected)

He also said it was what John and Mowgley came up with, lack of water feed so boiler shuts down, or mis adjusted thermal coupler

I will post back when I get news

Regards Jack McH

 

That's some good news then @Jack McHammocklashing

 

I'm starting to think that your house is on the conjunction of 2 or more underground rivers.

 

Our heating plumber arrived on time first thing this morning
Checked out all the work he had previously done, did tests and announced boiler Fine

Explained what was happening to him again, and that I had discovered the wet room gang had sealed the expansion open vent pipe, confirmed by him looking at the pipes on our still open ceiling below the wet room
He would not touch the wet room gangs work and advised us to get them back to rectify it,
water heats up and expands, up through the vent system, if boiler gets to hot it vents the pressure out, if it can not then the boiler has a thermal shut down sensor, which fortunately is working or the boiler goes boom

I will give him praise as he was with us a full two hours no charge

WET ROOM Gang almost impossible to contact, (eventually reluctantly given the number by the Council who use them for this work) Answer phone, mid afternoon tried again, to be told they are not responsible for boiler work, explained situation, and he advised they were commencing October weeks holiday tomorrow

Jack McH

 

As a thought Jack,
Don't give up Jack keep hounding them till they come back out. It's not the boiler they have to touch, just the balls up of the pipe work they have made!

 

Julie is disabled, so we were directed to the council, as although we have savings, she was entitled to council help, they gave us 50% towards it
We had no choice in contractor, just who they use for such work

To be honest, with my background, and training I could do the job myself but not qualified

The contractor was rubbish from the start and a few deniable thefts
We had a six months old Mira elite ST 9.8kw £500
That was removed and vanished in about ten minutes to be replaced a week later with a Mira enthuse 8kw £200
The six month old steel bath vanished and along with the bath and sink taps went away in a van obviously to the scrap man or to someone who wanted a job on the side

The door to the bathroom obviously had to be reduced to allow it to open, by about half an inch, the thing was ruined
The sink and toilet almost new quality ceramics were broken up and the cheapest of cheap disabled ceramics in place,
Then they broke the toilet bowl screwing it down
The council billed me for a special extractor fan mains to be fitted with a pull cord outside, then 12v at the fan £200
The electrician turned up with a 240v basic £12 fan from CEF and advised no one wants the new fan as it keeps them awake at night when it starts itself up, he then linked it direct to the light fitting, so the light had to be on when you take a shower to use it
I asked then how the hell can it turn itself on during the night to annoy me ? again the mouse accepted it
Next four weeks later the ceiling in my computer room/den fell in with water pouring out, now it had not done it in the past 40 years, so I called them
I admit I did all the tests with them, buckets of water on the floor , flush loo dozens of times run sink, run shower for an hour, run everything at once, nothing, until the next time it rained
Where they had removed the old cistern they left the hole in the wall, the new cistern overflows into the toilet bowl, I do not have a ladder high enough to reach the hole, and the cost of a hundred weight of cement to use about a half pint of mix

It was summer, we do not use the central heating in summer, and we were on holidays most of it anyway

Comes the chill a couple of weeks ago, and the central heating failed
Yes it is old and not used since April, so it must be that, heating plumber who originally fitted and serviced it, (we did not realise about the change of radiator as I had advised the wet room gang that IT WAS AN EXPANSION RADIATOR AND VENT

So far I am ~£550 down, a ceiling to replace, and waiting for the denial gang to call us after their holiday

I might ask Shiney to compose me a strong letter to the council or who ever

Jack McH

 

Action at last
08:00 today, wet room company arrived (well the plumber did)
I explained to him what was wrong, showed him the circuit diagram, and the heating engineers bill, advised him where the capping of the pipes were, so he did not have to spend too long looking (perhaps doing several a week for a few months he would not remember mine)

He looked and put his hands up, said sorry it was me,, said he would have to lift the floorboards etc, I advised he could work through the ceiling as it is still open
I explained why it was letting in water, he agreed hole should have been made up
They had a full installation on today, then shut down for a week October holidays so could not do the work until they return from holidays

We said well we will wait a week, IF after the plumbing repair, they made good the ceiling

Contacted his boss, and it is agreed for a week on Monday

Still down the money paid for the boiler "repair" but it was done in good faith and I really want it all behind me over and done with, so no arguments in a claims court against the other lot

Regards all and thanks for your concerns/help

Jack McHammocklashing