Climber help please!

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by wilroda, May 19, 2008.

  1. Dorsetmike

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    @LMRR, sent you a PM.
    A couple of my roses have lost nearly all their leaves so a rescue mission is overdue!!
     
  2. Little Miss Road Rage

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    I'll be there
     
  3. wilroda

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    Wow! we are all into climbing roses!
    I am sorely tempted to chop mine back now, but shall try and resist until february - or is it November?
    It now has a couple of new shoots trying to grow off the main branch and is looking very top heavy. Clearly i should have cared for it better when it was younger and it needs a drastic pruning!
     
  4. Pro Gard

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    Tie down growth throught the year as needed and prune off the finished flower heads around now. Personally I tend to also thin out some of the top growth around now and remove any dead wood, a proper prune and tying in around feb.
     
  5. Dorsetmike

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    Yes Paul, some thinning now can work, especially any branches that are too close to other branches so that they rub against each other in the wind, or where you get a lot of smaller weak shoots remove any that are spoiling the shape you want; example on an archway shoots that want to go across the arch and maybe catch your arm as you walk through, some you can tie back but some always seem to want to go where you don't want them.
     
  6. Dorsetmike

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    LMRR & I had a fun day hacking the black spot, we may have bitten off more than we can chew!! It's worse than I at first thought. The weather didn't help either, about 3 showers interrupted us so we concentrated on stripping the black spotted leaves, left the spraying for a dryer, less windy day.
     
  7. Little Miss Road Rage

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    Yes could be a while stripping the leaves off
     
  8. wilroda

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    Hi again!

    Well I have pruned the rose - but am very tempted to cut the main stem back to promote more side shoots lower down. from where I am looking there is a stem about 4 ft long and quite thick.
    Would it be a mistake to cut that back and effectively start again?

    Thanks!
     
  9. lollipop

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    No I don`t think so and it certainly won`t do it any harm, but I think I would train that particular stem as horizontally as I could get it, the side shoots would then become the vertical shoots, but perhaps that`s a mistake-Woo will know for sure.
     
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    Hi Wilroda and Lollipop,I personally would just cut it back if its the main stem,which in turn would give me more choices in what direction it would grow,and it would produce more Horizontal side shoots to train,but Lollipop is right in saying that if you bend the main shoot over to a Horizontal position it will produce side shoots,and it is purely a personal choice of mine,I just feel that the Rose,s final shape will look Better and would get more Light and air overall,I have pruned all my Roses and sprayed them as I always do in February except the new climbers which I like to leave for 2-3 years .Hope this is of some help:)
     
  11. lollipop

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    Woo, I knew I had a particular question and that you would knowthe answer.


    I have seen somewhere someone who had a climber planted as a shrub and they took the long upright shoots and stuck the ends of them in the ground, the only thing I can say it particularly looked like was a bit spiderish. Why would they do that and what, if any, benefits are there?
     
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    Hi Lollipop Well the only explanation I can see is They might have been Tip Layering to get new young Roses its works very well with Climbing Roses or there is Serpentine Layering But mostly used on other Plants as Is trench layering:)
     
  13. lollipop

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    Ah, I see, to get new roses, I thought it was something to do with the sap rising in spring or some such mystery. Never thought of that.
     
  14. wilroda

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    Hi and thanks!
    But I am a little confused. The main shoot is really quite thick,rigid and old ( and long!) would it be ok to cut that?
    as I see it at the moment, its still all growth at the top......
     
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    Hi Wilroda my advice would be to cut it back to 24 inches ,:thumb::)
     
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