Comparing Where We Live, Texas and ?

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    They passed couple ordinances here, one was to "Save open spaces" the other was that all "buildings/houses" have to visually show the ambiance of the county. So, what I do see building are some stylish condos, or those monster houses. My side of the county the west side is still priced decent, but the east side is nuts in price.
     
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      Housing has gotten insane. Prices are ridiculous, how can young people afford a home? Or maybe I should ask what kind of job people have in order to afford houses that cost more than I made in my lifetime? :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
       
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        The way prices have gone in some parts of the UK has made it almost impossible for young people to buy a house. The added problem is that to rent a home is also becoming prohibitive. In some cases the rental costs are higher than a mortgage would be but with a mortgage you now need a large deposit, which is impossible for a lot of people. So more and more young people are having to stay with their parents which puts a big strain on relationships - especially as the properties are so small.

        People here say that things have never been so bad but they are really only comparing to the last 70 years. Before WWII things were completely different but there were many problems then. My father was brought up in a rented house (owned by the local authority in London) which was a part of a terrace of houses (all of them were joined together). The was no front garden and the back garden was 18ft x 30ft and that contained the outside toilet (no inside toilet).

        Living in the house were my grandparents, my father's oldest sister with her husband and two children and my father and his other eight brothers and sisters. The rooms were built right up into the attic and, I guess, the total came to less than a 1,000sq ft.

        It was certainly an incentive to try and do something about it. Some people in that situation did nothing and continued to wallow in poverty, others turned to crime and some tried to improve their situation.

        My family, all left school by the age of 14, worked hard to improve and move out. Most eventually managed it and were able to make a success of themselves in one way or another.
         
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          With the very low interest rates we have now then mortgage costs are actually cheaper than when we first bought in the 1970s, especially if it's just an interest only mortgage (looking at it in terms of percentage take home pay).

          Provided you've got the deposit it's much cheaper to buy than rent. That's why there are so many new Buy-to-Let landlords.

          Both factors are pushing up house prices. Problems will only come when interest rates go up, like when our beloved Maggie Thatcher put them up to 15%+ and about 2/3rds of my take home pay went on the mortgage.
           
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            Yup I can remember paying 17.5% mortgage interest back in the late 1980s. That somewhat concentrated the mind when deciding whether a property was worth what someone else thought it was!
            Like many we never seemed to be doing the "right" thing at the right time. Then we had a fairly hefty mortgage now when rates are incredibly low we don't have a mortgage......sigh!
             
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              Interests rates are low here too----something like 3.6% Twenty six years ago when we sign for the mortgage your given a choice, Fixed, or Adjustable. Later swings with the current economic changes. Some people are very scared to take that risk, we however were not after we studied a few factors and never regretted it. Our initial monthly figure back then, was XXXXX, today, the monthly figure we pay is 1/4 the XXXX. It never went above the original XXXX, but either stayed the same for a year, then started going down. At this point, we re near the end, only about $3,000 left to pay it off. After that then I have to worry to save money for any house taxes which currently are absorbed in our monthly bill, and the bank pays the taxes.

              So by the time I retire, next year, our house will be ours totally.
               
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                Just an observation, there is a difference between NEED and WANT..

                When we purchased our home, we were told we could afford a higher priced home, but we decided NOPE, to want a smaller home, thus more money for other things.
                 
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                    We financed our current home. We sold our previous home on a handshake deal. No earnest money, no contract, no realtor, just a verbal agreement and a handshake. When we got our money for the house, we paid off the new one. We also owned 16 acres and sold it over the phone to a friend, no earnest money, no contract, not even a handshake.
                     
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                      not sure what you mean by "no earnest money".
                       
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                      'Earnest money' is not a term used here in the UK but means something like a deposit held in escrow (usually an account held by a third part - lawyer, agent etc.). :dbgrtmb:

                      Here in the UK we have two stages when buying/selling a property.

                      The first is 'exchange of contracts' when a deposit is made and the paperwork is being worked on. The paperwork being searches at the Land Registry (the government body that holds copies of the title deeds to the land), with the Local Authority (who will say whether there are any restrictions or covenants or problems with the actual land and building), checks that the bank is giving a proper mortgage or that the purchaser is actually who he says he is and we even, nowadays, have to complete a document that says whether there have been any disputes with the neighbours. Also copies of site plans and building plans are looked at.

                      The second stage is when all these have been done and questions answered. That stage is called Completion and the final transaction made. All changes of ownership have to be sent to the Land Registry and to the Local Authority.

                      The Land Registry department was set up by act of parliament in 1862 - so comparatively recent.

                      Registration establishes proof of ownership and produces an easy-to-read document reflecting the contents of all the paper title deeds. This simplifies conveyancing (buying and selling of land and property), making transactions easier and potentially less costly for all involved.

                      Not all properties in the UK are registered as the Land Registry came after a lot of the properties were built or the ownership of the land but nearly 90% of all properties are now registered.

                      I have in my possession documents that predate the Registry (my house isn't old but the ownership of the land dates back centuries) but they are all, now, registered. My documents show who used to own the land going back generations. It was part of a farm estate and it gives a lot of local gossip about who married whom, when they died and the land was sold, where the widow moved to etc. Before Registry some of this was needed so that a purchaser could check back and get proof that the land was sold and not stolen or just taken over by squatters.

                      Registration of land under the Land Registration Act 2002 affords property owners some protection against squatters as well as avoiding the need to produce old documents each time a property changes hands.
                       
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                        That difference though may be blurred. Some examples:

                        A starving person both needs and wants food, which makes them the same

                        A homeless person may not want a home therefore in his mind he does not need one, no matter what others think. Making them the same.

                        A gardener wants a garden, and therefore needs one, even if it is not really a need. In this case, they are different. The want created a need.

                        Wants are the things that make us develop as individuals. If we could only obtain what we needed, would we be happy or sad?
                         
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                          Thank you @shiney for your complete answer. But the term "NO Earnest Money" was stated in the remarks by @Baymule who is from Texas, USA.

                          Anyway, @Sandy Ground , the difference between needs and wants as it applies to selection of a home, is that we do not need huge rooms, we do not need high end faucets (examples) as some of the discussion were the cost of the homes. And also, some people want to buy/surround themselves with "things" not needed in their lives, instead saving money from that toward a home. And how often have you heard of a father giving his daughter that crazy cost wedding, when that money could go to a house. My wedding dress was $150.00. (as an example). No one needs those $500.00 sneakers, (another example). I have a sister-in-law she will boast about buying some "name" pair of shoes for $400.00, and then on the other side she will say how poor they are, like--really. LOL.
                           
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                            Earnest money is a deposit ensuring that your intentions are to purchase a property and it holds the property, keeping it from being sold to someone else. If the seller backs out, the earnest money is returned. If the buyer backs out, the earnest money isn't refunded, the seller gets to keep it as compensation for taking the property off the market.
                             
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                              That's the same as what we call a deposit. Used for the same reasons to stop people saying they will buy your house only to never be seen again! While most of the laws in The United Kingdom apply to both England Wales Northern Ireland and Scotland there are a few differences between Scotland and the rest of the UK, house conveyancing being 1. Our system in Scotland is considerably better and I can say this with certainty as have been involved with buying/selling houses in both England and Scotland. It is somewhat of a nightmare property dealing in England with chains (trying to buy another house when you THINK you have sold the current 1 only for the buyer to pull out of the deal) plus gazumping and gazundering. I won't bore you with what these mean!
                              I am no way against England, as many Scots are:) but have often wondered why the rest of the UK doesn't adopt our far less stressful way of buying and selling property. Maybe @shiney who seems to know most things will enlighten me:)
                               
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