Corona Virus Treatment

... and sadly 1,000,000 will be achieved today!

 

To accept this, one has to accept that the government are actively lying rather than making flawed decisions and trying, as Pete says, to navigate between the conflicting advice of different scientific experts, as well as attempting to balance the threat of loss of life from covid with the threats posed by lockdowns and restrictions. Considering their popularity has plummeted and the economy stands to be decimated on their watch, I cannot see any motive for these lies, and am minded to assume human error rather than murderous malice.

 

They go with the consensus view, and while there are always going to be lone voices making counter-claims, there has been a pretty solid scientific consensus that the virus is ratcheting up and will continue to do so without serious lockdowns and restrictions. I think the difficulty for ministers is due to the fact that they are also, simultaneously, receiving forecasts of economic disaster, which as we know carry their own threat to loss of life, should they follow these proposals. Its probably true that they do not "have a clue," and they have certainly, in my view, made some ostensibly muddled and contradictory decisions. But we honestly have to ask ourselves - when was the last time you or I held the fate of 66.5 million people in our hands, and are we really saying we would have much of a clue in these circumstances, either? If anyone has an easy solution to this, they should contact HM Government ASAP, and include details of their qualifications in these areas.

 

Well I don't know about that, but he did make exceedingly good cakes.

 

This afternoon I am released from self-isolation, and now have an exceedingly strong desire to go and buy some! Might as well snap some up today, before I'm locked in again.

 

Without wanting to be flippant - I am wary of lockdown for economic reasons and the threats from these to loss of life, I know several people whose businesses are already in peril or have lost their jobs, and I don't particularly expect the PM will announce one (I expect the mooted new lockdown will turn out to be just pubs closing early again) - I am wondering if now would be a good time to assess the impact of it on Wales and Ireland, which could reveal how far the predictions of economic collapse have crystallized. We have been repeatedly told that a lockdown of even ten days would see the economy shattered. Wales and Ireland have been in lockdown-like conditions for about two weeks now, so I'm wondering if the result has mirrored the predictions? Hopefully they have not seen a lockdown-related loss of life comparable to the numbers dying of covid? Maybe the authorities there have propped up the economies more robustly, or perhaps the consequences are some way off in the future?

 

There might be a bit of confusion regarding the numbers. The 20,000 I quoted was the number put out there at the start of the lockdown, if memory serves.

 

I think any proven lies should be made public for everybody's sake.

 

Looks like Boris is going for it. News conference at 4 today.

Let's hope that Mark keeps to his word and Wales emerge from lock down on the 9th.

Do you know, people from England were caught driving up through Wrexham to get to the North Wales coast? The Old Bill aren't daft - they were waiting for them.

 

In which case they should report the information anonymously or go to the police, unless there is not actual proof and it is just speculation. I understand and respect the fact you want to avoid such discussions on GC, but in fairness you have used the site to allege what to my mind at least is an serious offence, that of people in positions of responsibility and authority lying about their findings, which if true would potentially put many lives at risk. As I say, if what you're referring to is idle gossip or workplace rumours then it is of course in a different category, but probably shouldn't be used to fuel fear at a time when the public's nerves are already frayed, and when trust in institutions is already at an all time low.

 

I don’t think for one minute the government has handled it well. It might help if they would admit to the mistakes made. I do though sympathise with their position. It’s not as if something like this is a regular occurrence, so there’s an element of making it up as we go along and putting things in place to try to contain the virus. I think the scale of the task is immense and complex. Folks will say that the messages regarding restrictions are confusing, which I have some sympathy for, but there’s been a simple message all along, avoid contact with others and personal hygiene (put simply)
Social distancing is clearly being ignored on a vast scale, I see it all the time. I have to do the shopping shortly, and will do my best to keep my distance, as I’ve always done, but from experience I know full well I’ll be the odd one out.