Corona Virus Treatment

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  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    I haven't a problem with that, but I suspect millions of OAP whose only income are those might disagree:dunno:, robbing Pete(r) (excuse the Pun), to pay Paul has, in history, never worked:dunno::doh:
    But, again, it's ignoring what really is the problem, which is the people who deliberately ignore the restrictions knowing that they could spread COVID 19 but don't care about anyone but themselves and their own little world. It's an impossible task to change those peoples mind set and so, as I said, it's going to be a long, hard, repetitive road that lies ahead of us all.:cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee:
     
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    • SimonZ

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      I watched the conference, and have read the newly published rules again on the government website just now. I don't know if its a combination of everything going on for me at the minute, but on this occasion I have to say I am quite baffled by the latest changes, and can't understand how they are intended to work. Its worded so cleverly that any number of interpretations are possible. At this stage I have literally no idea whether I'll have to go to work or have to stay home. Pete probably had the best idea to watch the rugby instead.
       
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      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        Ok, so up till now the person in the street has taken the hit, money wise, the government, us the taxpayer has taken a really big hit.
        Anyone think its about time the banks and building societies took a financial hit, because they are not feeling the pinch at all as far as I can see.
        Likewise landlords are still expecting rents.
         
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        • ARMANDII

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          Perhaps, I'm too simple minded but I fail to see where the complications are.:scratch::doh: I listened to Boris and the Scientists at the News Conference and then have read the restrictions online and it's basically the same for personal consumption but this time allowing Universities, Colleges and Schools to remain open.........where's the mystery in that? So, we don't leave our Homes except for essential reasons and if you need to work out the basic essential reasons you really do have a problem in interpreting things.
          We can meet one person outside, Carers can still visit and carry out duties etc, we can't attend social gatherings, we're told to wear masks in certain places, we're told to stay the defined distance apart from each other, we're told not to travel unless it's an emergency, we're told to work from Home if possible, Superstores will remain open, non essential business will close, and so on........what is complicated about that:scratch::doh::wallbanging: Local Authorities will still have the power to add to the Lockdown restrictions but that really isn't going to complicate things if you can keep up to date.:cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee:
           
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          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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          I'm getting the rope ready now, just finding something high enough to tie it to so my feet wont touch the ground.:frown:
           
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          Well, that would be nice but, legally, it's impossible to do as Banks funds cannot be touched or confiscated because of long established legislation, not to protect the Banks but to protect the Businesses that rely on them.
          There are Countries where the Governments can, and do, dip into Bank funds for their own good/agenda but they're to the South of us.
          We all look for simple solutions or point to someone else to blame or should do this or that and sometimes there are reasons to do that. But take a step back, we can, and probably will, keep pouring Billions into solving the COVID 19 situation but that won't work if the Man or Woman next door or down the street, etc, keep ignoring the restrictions for their own satisfaction and spreading the infections.:wallbanging:
           
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            Oh, pete, only the Good die young, so you and I will be fine.:dunno::heehee:
             
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            • SimonZ

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              Hope you're alright Pete.
               
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                [if you need to work out the basic essential reasons you really do have a problem in interpreting things.
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                Yes, as I said I have a great deal going on at the moment and sometimes even something tat is apparently simple and easy to others can be the straw that breaks the camel's back. You will be familiar with the expression "a bridge too far"? Wrapping my head around this is such a bridge for me. I'll probably see it a bit more clearly in the morning.
                 
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                  I have to admit. Asto how this virus works remains a mystery to me.

                  I would hate to be in the PM's shoes or any other person having to decide. However. The politicians could have perhaps listened more to what the scientist had to say. Listening intently to the the two main scientists. IMO they really did do their best to cover for the PM. Sadly the PM tends to take off on whatever tangent appeals to him, a sad mistake for a highly educated individual.

                  Sorry but, as I say. I don't know how this virus works. An imaginary scenario. Total Lockdown. Almost not a soul out and about. So what does the virus do? As there are for the present no humans to infect. Does the viral cells die, go away or what/ or do they hang about and as soon as the lockdown is over, attack, attack!

                  In which case. How can, and to what degree of protection/prevention can imposing what actually amounts to a partial lockdown, have? We have to take into account that this is a worldwide pandemic.

                  Then with the best will in the world. This test and track thing. OK. I feel a little poorly. I go for a test. Eventually the result comes back. Negative. Whilst waiting for the result. I get wose and then, with or witout another test, I prove positive. I don't know.

                  All this about childrens education. Surely if the worst comes to the worst. Add extra time onto the school leaving age. That can't be all that bad. Most school leavers today, end up with having no jobs to go to.
                   
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                  • Scrungee

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                    The new rules are simple, just spend November wandering around garden centres (but only with other members of your household).

                    New National Restrictions from 5 November

                    "Food shops, supermarkets, garden centres and certain other retailers providing essential goods and services can remain open. Essential retail should follow COVID-secure guidelines to protect customers, visitors and workers."
                     
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                      Don't forget that other retailers (non-essential) can continue as long as they provide a delivery service or a click and collect service. That means most things are available if the retailer can provide the service. It's the business site that has to be closed to the public and not the service.

                      Unfortunately you can't click and collect a haircut!

                      Work:- "for work purposes, where your place of work remains open and where you cannot work from home (including if your job involves working in other people’s homes)"
                       
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                      Oh yes you can

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                        That's not a haircut!!! That's a shave! :roflol:
                         
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                        Well, the only problem i see for Miss Jiff and me is if there is a q to get in to food shop, which we only done for 3 week in the first lockdown so i'm hoping that in this lockdown there isn't any q-ing other than that it will be like normal :)
                         
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