Corona Virus Treatment

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      Not supposed to travel in tier 4 without a reasonable excuse. I am sure people will bend the rules to suit themselves, like those travelling to lower tier pubs.
       
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        Also I understand that to inoculate more people the second booster jab will only be given after 12 weeks. What percentage immunity ( of the Oxford 70%) do you receive from one jab? i.e if you get 80% immunity of the 70% , that would be 56% immunity.
         
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          Good morning @HarryS my friend forget the numbers and percentages:heehee: for me this is great news at least it gives some protection and my cup is half full not half empty,yesterday I had no immunity in the future at some point I can have according to your post 56% immunity that will do for Woo,enjoy your day and stay safe:smile::blue thumb:
           
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            Not really, Scrungee, as the Tier 4 will, most likely, be adjusted to include new travel restrictions.:dunno:
             
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            I was much relieved to hear that the Oxford vaccine has been approved. Interesting also to hear that the approach is to offer everyone a single jab - and once everyone has had their single jab - to move into jabbing for the second time. The logic being that a single jab protects from severe symptoms - so people will not die from Covid-19 once they have had their first jab.

            All good news:

            - MHRA have issued the launch codes - it's time for us to fight back;
            - the vaccine has already been made;
            - we are ready - systems are in place for a mass roll out;
            - a single jab will stop people dying from Covid-19.
             
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              Sounds a good idea, and I guess they know what they are doing.
              But in my twisted mind I'm just wondering that if they give you only the one dose followed by the next one in 12 weeks are they giving the virus more chance to mutate during that period of low immunity.

              Surely two jabs closer together and maximum immunity should stop it in its tracks rather than just partial immunity for over 3 months and vaccinated people still spreading it around.
               
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              This is why the Oxford jab is a game changer:

              There is a massive stockpile of some 55 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine — developed by a team at AstraZeneca and Oxford University — in cold storage freezers, laid out on pallets and stacked to the ceiling. Those doses will be used once they get approval from India's regulatory body.
               
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              That has/was amended weeks ago, Harry. The "winning formula" they are touting is
              The Virus is, according to the UK Genomics, mutating thousands of times a day, pete, trying to find a way to survive whether or not it's a 3 week or a 12 week period. So having one jab and then waiting for the second is something the Virus is blind to and it will just carry on doing what it does.:dunno:
               
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                Which is the basic point I was making, but it will carry on doing it in all the population that have been vaccinated as well.
                 
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                  Well, there's no real scientific evidence of a second infection by a person, although there's anecdotal stories, so the opinion is that a new variant of the Virus, will not be enough to change the effectiveness of the vaccine, but it's early days yet.
                  HMRA were decidedly "coy" with any real projections about the different combinations of injections of the Astrozenica vaccine and their effects as they have very little published data. So what we got was figure of 70 plus efficacy on the 22nd day of having the injection but no real information of what the efficacy figure would be after the second injection. They seem to regard the standard dose of two injections to be the easiest route with any thing from 3 weeks to 12 weeks between the injections. I got the impression that they were taking the stance of "we'll know more, and say more, 3 months after the first injections which, I guess, is the safest way.:cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee:
                   
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                    Just finished reading about a fellow from my town, who is dissappointed that our government isn't helping him fly home from London. He flew over December 6th to visit a poorly, perhaps terminally ill relative. He rented an air bnb and that rental has now run out. There is no mention if the relative is still with us. Or if it is indeed someone close to him which might seem questionable given the need for a bnb rental during a family crisis?

                    And he was there in March for the same reason and had trouble getting back that time.

                    And his full name was not stated, just "Jim". Obviously he is worried about a lynch mob and wants to stay anonymous?

                    Fools in every country it seems!

                    We need to find a deserted island for these stupid, inconsiderate oafs, as their final destination?
                     
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                      Give it time @CanadianLori - he'll likely be given a three bedroom council house, income benefits and full use of the NHS.
                       
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                        quote...You know she almost wishes she has it, get it over with, just so the two of them can live theirs lives again. Brings it home to you just how it really is at the mo. No sad faces please,just me talking it out,can't do me anything but good..unquote..

                        Well she had a ''positive'' result this morning and had another covid19 test via her employer..something they have weekly, being a Carer. So she is worrying about the chances of her being responsible for spreading it on to her elderly clients.I spoke with her about this and I think she felt a tad better with herself...We can all beat ourselves up at times.
                        Yesterday they had their Xmas dinner and the procedure she wrote up to me on a chat prog. was as much as I could take in .Almost Constant anti-bacteria cleaning made my mouth drop...but enough info..
                        Good news of course they are in the same cell now for the duration of the sentence:pillow:
                         
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                          I've just found out that Pfizer haven't bothered to provide trial results to India's drugs regulatory authority - I wonder, is this because their jabs are expensive/been snapped up by the more wealthy countries and they don't see a profit is savings lives in India? Despicable.

                          I'm hoping that now that the MHRA have given the nod - this will push forward the approval of the Oxford vaccine in India.

                          New Delhi: With preparations underway for a possible vaccine-rollout by January, the Indian drug regulator is looking at the UK, which sources believe may give its nod to the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine next week, before deciding on giving emergency use authorisation to the Serum Institute that is manufacturing the shots here.

                          Once the UK drug regulator gives its approval to the Oxford vaccine, the expert committee on COVID-19 at the CDSCO will hold its meeting and thoroughly review the safety and immunogenicity data from the clinical evaluations conducted abroad and in India before granting any emergency authorisation for the vaccine here, official sources said.
                           
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