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    Just for info. I thought that we were supposed to wait 15 minutes after having the jab to see whether we had any adverse effect. A friend of mine that works at a vaccination centre said that is just for the Pfizer jab. The AZ jab just needs 5 minutes. I don't know why - and neither did she!
     
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      Thats to allow the Pfizer one to warm up.:biggrin:
      The AZ one is not as cold.:biggrin:
       
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        Fortunately the country's numbers have reduced drastically since the weekend and recoveries have tripled over new cases.

        "On Tuesday Portugal registered 260 deaths and 5,540 new cases of Covid-19, according to the daily balance of the Directorate-General for Health (DGS).
        As for hospital admissions, the DGS epidemiological bulletin reveals that 6,775 people are in hospital, 94 less than the previous day, and 852 in intensive care, 13 less.

        Confirmed cases are distributed across all age groups, with the highest number of infections between 20 and 59 years of age.

        Of the total of 13,017 deaths, 8,763 were people over 80 years old, 2,661 aged between 70 and 79 years old and 1,103 were between 60 and 69 years old. Of the total fatalities, 6,789 were men and 6,228 women."

        Algarve has 126 new cases and 7 deaths so the problem remains from Central to the North. The German Military is sending a team and equipment up there today to help. I understand five patients are being flown in from Madeira today too. Algarve has taken 33 into its field hospital and can prepare it for ICU use. Algarve is also ready to prepare the massive Arena in Faro if needed. Our hospitals are not up to capacity thankfully ... but nearly there.

         
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          Amalgamated from various sources, it appears as Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Austria, Poland and Sweden wont be using the Astravenica vaccine to vaccinate over 65's. Those countries contain over 60% of the EU's population.

          I've heard it suggested that because they're so short of vaccines, their real intention is to make excuses to bypass their elderly, leaving them in lockdown, and getting the younger members of their populations back to work, putting their economies first.
           
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            That's what I heard from some of the family in France. I thought it was just their speculation but you seem to be confirming what I posted earlier. :blue thumb:
             
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              Just wondering, up to 10 million now had their first dose.
              Will supplies be enough in order to do the second dose at 12 weeks and continue vaccinating others with the first dose.
              What happens to those that need the second dose if its not available, bearing in mind other countries are ramping up their vaccination programmes, supplies are going to get shorter and shorter.
               
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                The Astra-Zeneca vaccine isn't the only one available. Why wouldn't they use the alternatives for the elderly?:scratch:
                 
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                  Unless the daily vaccination rate increases, 2nd vaccinations start becoming due in about 7 weeks time /26th March, less than a week before the over 60's are due to start getting their first doses, but as first doses started off slower it might be mid April before things start getting interesting with lots of 1st (over 50's then) and 2nd doses all being done/due on the same day.
                   
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                    I thought the EU had much less Pfizer vaccine than Astraveneca, not enough for their elderly.
                     
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                    Probably, @Scrungee......I can't keep up with all the ins-and-outs just lately! To my simple understanding of the situation, the UK has just said 'To hell with caution, detailed approvals etc' and gone for maximum, rapid vaccination, so tough luck if there's collateral damage. The EU has dithered, done it's usual, bureaucratic 'thing', played ping-pong with passing the buck to and from it's member countries, and meanwhile people are still dying..... Looks as though, this time, the UK has struck lucky :biggrin: I just sincerely hope that Macron never gets wind of the thinking behind the Liverpool Pathway!
                     
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                      Assuming the second dose has to be the same stuff as the first one was it could get tricky if supplies are not spot on.

                      I did hear that they are hoping to get some of the Moderna stuff at some point in March.
                       
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                      I thought it might involve some long distance travelling for 2nd doses of Pfizer if supplies get scarce. Was relieved when I saw I was getting AZ.


                      P.S. My tiredness/fatigue side effect completely dissapeared today. Had 1 small glass of wine as I've avoided alcohol for 4 days.
                       
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                        You might have to go to France for it then.:biggrin:
                         
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                          No problem....open house here for members of GC :biggrin:
                           
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                            According to the info, they will continue to follow the programme of priorities but slow down the roll out of first jabs when they need to give the second dose. So if there is a shortage it will mean you youngsters may have to wait a bit.

                            I don't think it is seen that way over here. It went through the full amount of recommended tests and peer reviews before approving it. What little 'collateral damage' there may possibly have been, if any, pales into insignificance compared to the possible saving of lives by giving the vaccine when they have put it through the recommended procedures.

                            I certainly agree that the EU has dithered over the roll out but I think that calling the UK roll out as having 'struck lucky' is a rather unfair way of putting the fact that we got off our backsides for a change and got a move on. Although the UAE and Israel were way ahead of us.

                            I certainly don't know enough about French and EU politics but it appears as though Macron forgot to get his finger out of his backside and get a move on. That's what my French relatives have told me. :noidea:
                             
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