Corona Virus Treatment

Hello all

I need to add my bit here as it seems that everyone that has declined the vaccine is being put in the same boat, this should not be the case.

As many of you will know, I am Autistic and with that, for me, comes Hypersensitivity.

I have sensory issues, including being sensitive to Light, Sound, Smell, Taste and Touch, another sensitivity I have is to Medication.

I have a history of having bad reactions to medications and have had to be taken off many over the years.

If I am taking a medication in tablet form and I have a bad reaction then I can merely stop taking the medication and given time my body recovers.

However, if I take a vaccination and I have a bad reaction then it is not possible to stop taking it, so, for me, personally, having the vaccination is too much of a risk.

I wish people would understand that not all the people who decline the vaccination are 'Conspiracy Theorists'. some of us have valid issues preventing us from having it.

Moan over

Thanks

Kevin

 

I agree with you Kevin Cowans - just for clarity around my previous post - there is a world of difference between 'vaccine deniers' and those who for medical reasons cannot take the vaccine.

Vaccine deniers make a personal choice to reject the vaccine - there is no medical reason why they cannot take the vaccine. The various religious leaders have come out and said that the vaccine should be taken - I've no idea why we have vaccine deniers - but it is their right to refuse the vaccine if they so wish.

The problem for me is that vaccine deniers are not only putting themselves at risk - but also those who for valid medical reasons cannot take the vaccine.

Vaccine deniers are a dangerous breed in my book.

As with all statistics - it's caution, caution, caution - the people who have had a double vaccination have other underlying health conditions - so who knows if/how this contributed to their passing.

The vaccine does work - it is saving lives - the more people who have it the better.

IMHO -

 

On the news the other day they said that the vaccine does not stop you getting it and it doesn't stop you spreading it but stop you from the getting the worst of it and putting you into hospital

if that most people now have had 1 jab and lots have had 2 jabs why is it still spreading, becuse we are now moving around all over the place and meeting people

I hate 1 rule for one and one rule for another, one rules is best
RANT OVER sorry

 

Australia have done a cracking job - closing borders and keeping out Covid-19. This doesn't mean that they don't have to vaccinate - if they don't do it properly, Covid-19 will take hold when they open up.

They are however 'doing a Europe' with regards to AZ:

Australian doctors have reported a surge in the number of people cancelling their vaccine appointments, amid a new wave of caution over the AstraZeneca jab.

Vaccines are the only way out - no matter how good your containment - Covid-19 isn't going away anytime soon.

 

Covid will spread like crazy once the restrictions get lifted.
I think we are back in the days when "herd immunity" was mentioned.

Just my reasoning, but if you get covid, but not badly, because you have been vaccinated, my guess that will even double up your immunity from catching it again.

Spoke to my elderly aunt in Australia a few days ago, she is around 95 and in a retirement home.
She has had both vaccinations of Pfizer, she said that she didn't want the AZ one.

Seems they have all had the living daylights scared out of them over there regarding blood clots.

They also get very scared if they get a couple of hundred cases.
When I told her its all over the place here she wondered how come we were all still alive.

 

Haven't all Chancellors been (and are) failed Chancellors?

 

Not only in Oz, but also in UK, although I would hope that the vast majority of infections would be like that recently publicised case of Andrew Marr (who had 2 jabs) and experienced symptoms something like flu which is unpleasant but he didn't get hospitalised/die from them.

I've previously had flu many times with similar unpleasant symptoms, although now it might kill me, but if being fully vaccinated against Covid means nothing worse than flu symptoms then I'd be less concerned about catching it than a new strain of flu.

 

In that part I was referring to the UK.

We do , at, least in part, have a population that has had quite a lot of exposure to covid.

I'm thinking in countries like Oz an NZ that have pretty much dodged it, it could take off yet.

 

I agree with your logic . We get the same immune response whether the real virus or a harmless copy from the jab. There's talk about a 3rd jab increasing our immune response even more - same probably applies to getting the real thing.

I wonder if this is BoJo's long term approach - jabbing everyone up so they don't die and then letting Covid-19 run rampant - strengthening peoples immune response and providing some level of herd immunity protection to those who can't have the jab.

 

The idea would be that it becomes a disease we can all live with, people will still die, but that happens every year with the likes of flu and other respiratory diseases.
The numbers will hopefully be lower, and expected.

 

I think your are stretching it just a bit saying Bo Jo's approach.

I dont think he knows his a*se from his elbow, it's likely to be the approach that has been suggested to him and the rest of the cabinet "no nothings", as a way forward.

Whether it is going to work or not, we will find out.