Corona Virus Treatment

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by ricky101, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. Fat Controller

    Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2012
    Messages:
    28,013
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Public Transport
    Location:
    At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
    Ratings:
    +52,729
    Oh absolutely, it is the idiots that have brought this about - XR/BLM/Freedom marches etc, but the law of unintended consequences is in there and I have a deep distrust of anything that our governments do now. Three weeks to flatten the curve...
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • clanless

      clanless Total Gardener

      Joined:
      Jan 20, 2013
      Messages:
      3,201
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Gentleman of leisure.
      Location:
      North Wales
      Ratings:
      +7,631
      Laws can be challenged in the courts and reversed. These things aren't imposed - they have to go through the Lords/Parliament - Parliament has the final say so and we have the power to change Parliament through election - as we did when they started messing about with Brexit.

      IMHO the UK is the best place in the world to live.

      This is going slightly off topic.
       
      • Agree Agree x 2
      • Fat Controller

        Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

        Joined:
        May 5, 2012
        Messages:
        28,013
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Public Transport
        Location:
        At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
        Ratings:
        +52,729
        Indeed, but it is quite a wide topic purely by the nature of the governments reaction and actions and all of this is being brought about under the guise of covid. Whilst things can be challenged in courts, having the funding to do so is entirely a different thing...
         
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        51,624
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +95,706
        Realistically I can only remember one protest that actually changed things and that was the poll tax one.
        Most marches and protests achieve absolutely nothing and I think its probably the same people on most of them.:biggrin:
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • Agree Agree x 1
        • Fat Controller

          Fat Controller 'Cuddly' Scottish Admin! Staff Member

          Joined:
          May 5, 2012
          Messages:
          28,013
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Public Transport
          Location:
          At me 'puter, GCHQ Ashford Office, Middlesex
          Ratings:
          +52,729
          True, but it also seems that voting has little effect. Let's not beat about the bush here, our parliament spent almost four years trying to subvert the choice that was made in 2016, and the Scottish government have spent a bit longer trying to subvert the decision made in 2014
           
          • Like Like x 1
          • Giri

            Giri Gardener

            Joined:
            Jul 4, 2021
            Messages:
            218
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Architectural Blacksmith (in recovery).
            Location:
            Andalucia, Spain
            Ratings:
            +654
            I have been trying hard to find a single scintilla of common sense in Boris´s question, :--
            "If not now, when?"
            I have failed miserably, it doesn´t form any kind of argument, explanation, or logic.
            This is the rhetoric of Imelda Marcos and Idi Amin, revealing contempt for the questioner and the question.
            Had they not had the immeasurable irony to style themselves "Public Servants" I might not have realised it was actually a pantomime.
             
          • JWK

            JWK Gardener Staff Member

            Joined:
            Jun 3, 2008
            Messages:
            32,640
            Gender:
            Male
            Location:
            Surrey
            Ratings:
            +50,526
            It's difficult tell what Boris is saying, he waffles and blusters with an awful lot of nonsense asides. I think he means now is the time to relax all restrictions. We have to do that sooner or later. The more we delay the more businesses go bust and people lose their jobs, and people miss their hospital treatment etc etc.

            Go for it now will cost lives, it's a tradeoff.
             
            • Agree Agree x 1
            • Informative Informative x 1
            • Victoria

              Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

              Joined:
              Jun 9, 2006
              Messages:
              31,639
              Occupation:
              Lady of Leisure
              Location:
              Messines, Algarve
              Ratings:
              +57,239

              Just read this is only from 7pm on Fridays through the weekend and on holidays and only in High Risk counties ... Algarve now has 9 out of 16 High Risk counties since the Tourist Season began, our county being one. Our numbers have quadrupled but our positive figures are being calculated against our normal population number ... not fair! It is a big issue with our Mayors lobbying the Government.

              Today is a National Holiday, Portugal Day.
               
              • Informative Informative x 1
              • Giri

                Giri Gardener

                Joined:
                Jul 4, 2021
                Messages:
                218
                Gender:
                Male
                Occupation:
                Architectural Blacksmith (in recovery).
                Location:
                Andalucia, Spain
                Ratings:
                +654
                I see where you are coming from, and your clarity exceeds his by a country mile.
                What I´m wondering is, if we abandoned High Speed Rail, spent no more on weapons, raided the Banks for some of their illegal profits, established a Land Tax, and stopped squaffing millions to Friends of Boris, would the government be in a better position to support the country where it really needs it ?

                As you see, John, I have but one foot on this planet, and its ways are a matter of great curiosity.
                 
                • Like Like x 1
                • Victoria

                  Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

                  Joined:
                  Jun 9, 2006
                  Messages:
                  31,639
                  Occupation:
                  Lady of Leisure
                  Location:
                  Messines, Algarve
                  Ratings:
                  +57,239
                  You haven't got it too bad there ... here ...
                  • Mandatory telework when activities allow;
                  • Limitation of circulation on public roads from 11 pm;
                  • The digital certificate or a negative test is now required inside the restaurants (and not on the terrace), on Fridays from 7 pm and during weekends and holidays.
                  • Restaurants and cafes can be open until 22:30 during the week and until 15:30 at the weekend (indoor, with a maximum of 4 people per group; on the terrace, 6 people per group);
                  • Cultural shows until 22:30;
                  • Weddings and baptisms with 25% of the capacity;
                  • Food retail trade until 9pm during the week and until 7pm on weekends and holidays;
                  • Non-food retail trade until 9 pm during the week and until 3:30 pm on weekends and holidays;
                  • Gyms without group classes, low and medical risk sports
                  • Outdoor events with reduced capacity, to be defined by the DGS;
                  • Citizen offices with face-to-face service by appointment only
                  I am not complaining as it does not affect my lifestyle. :biggrin:
                   
                  • Like Like x 1
                  • Friendly Friendly x 1
                  • Giri

                    Giri Gardener

                    Joined:
                    Jul 4, 2021
                    Messages:
                    218
                    Gender:
                    Male
                    Occupation:
                    Architectural Blacksmith (in recovery).
                    Location:
                    Andalucia, Spain
                    Ratings:
                    +654
                    Sounds a bit serious Victoria, of course here in the Alpujarra we thought about that too.
                    Then we thought "Nah, let´s close the road and race rally cars."
                    So we did that instead.
                     
                    • Funny Funny x 2
                    • Useful Useful x 1
                    • pete

                      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                      Joined:
                      Jan 9, 2005
                      Messages:
                      51,624
                      Gender:
                      Male
                      Occupation:
                      Retired
                      Location:
                      Mid Kent
                      Ratings:
                      +95,706
                      Ahh the perfect society.:biggrin:

                      Can you mention one country that operates under such a system.;)

                      You forgot to mention completely stopping foreign aid.
                       
                      • Like Like x 2
                      • Victoria

                        Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

                        Joined:
                        Jun 9, 2006
                        Messages:
                        31,639
                        Occupation:
                        Lady of Leisure
                        Location:
                        Messines, Algarve
                        Ratings:
                        +57,239
                        Somehow missed this bit ...

                        The Certificate is required in tourist establishments and local accommodation, every day and throughout the national territory;

                        Not good, and yesterday we had 3,162 nationally and 320 in Algarve. I shall stay seconded and safe in my orchards.
                         
                        • Agree Agree x 1
                        • Giri

                          Giri Gardener

                          Joined:
                          Jul 4, 2021
                          Messages:
                          218
                          Gender:
                          Male
                          Occupation:
                          Architectural Blacksmith (in recovery).
                          Location:
                          Andalucia, Spain
                          Ratings:
                          +654
                          I can but dream pete, and if such a Utopia existed, I would keep it a secret lest it be immediately bombed in the name of Democracy.
                          And you´re right, I forgot.
                           
                          • Funny Funny x 2
                          • Victoria

                            Victoria Lover of Exotic Flora

                            Joined:
                            Jun 9, 2006
                            Messages:
                            31,639
                            Occupation:
                            Lady of Leisure
                            Location:
                            Messines, Algarve
                            Ratings:
                            +57,239

                            We (Portimao) are hosting the GPMoto again this year. We went to the first one, great! No spectators I guess.
                             
                            • Informative Informative x 1
                            Loading...

                            Share This Page

                            1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                              By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                              Dismiss Notice