Cruise ship tragedy

I mentioned this to Mrs Trunky when I read it in yesterday's paper.

She surprised me somewhat by saying she could understand why it happened, as many men nowadays would be unwilling to be parted from their families in such circumstances.

Her view was that 'women and children first' may now be regarded as a somewhat old fashioned concept.

There followed a 'healthy debate' in which I strongly disagreed with this view.

The essence of my argument was that just because something is regarded as 'old fashioned' does not mean it is wrong.
Whilst you can never be certain how you would react in such circumstances, I had to say I would regard it as morally repugnant to push my way onto a lifeboat at the expense of women and children.
I posed the question: "So how would you feel if you saw me pushing women and children out of the way to ensure I had a place on a lifeboat with you and our children?"

Discuss.

 

Its always gone on in times of panic.

Women and children first is just a stiff upper lip attitude from a bygone age of cinema.
Victorian values of the upper classes.

When your back is to the wall, who knows what you will do to survive.
But the regret afterwards could easily be more than you could bear.

 

It took several hours to roll over Pete, More than enough time to get people off if the crew had been a bit more helpful, and if the Captain had stayed to the end.

 

I like the way Nasa debunk all the conspiracy theories but completely ignore the one thing that could tip the World into chaos.

Oh, they haven't mentioned that one because even Nasa scientists can't debunk it:DOH:

 

This could take a bit of explaining away.

The captain of the stricken cruise liner, Costa Concordia, was accused on Sunday night of deliberately steering the ship "too close" to a rocky shore in order to wave a greeting signal to someone on the Italian island of Giglio.

 

The Costa Concordia, has sailed close before August 2011, I was on the same cruise

The Maitre D was born on the island of Giglio, and his family still live there
it is the same when they sail past Stromboli, they give a salute and display themselves
The one I was on it was official, and to give the island of Giglia tourists something special
Only my one was at 500mtrs off shore not 300

La nave Concordia vicino al Giglio - Video - Corriere TV

The company owners Carnival have already hung the Captain, I expect to protect further bookings and sell their ships to the public

It does appear, he took this latest display on his own back, and cocked up big style,
Lets let him have his say in court first, maybe the charts do show plenty of depth, and just in OCT 2011 Two new islands have been born, one in the Red Sea and one right outside the port in the Canaries

The stories are twisted
The crew pushing past to the lifeboats first, were doing just that
THEY WERE THE CREW THAT LOWER THE BOATS, AND INSIDE RUN THE ENGINES without them it would be worthless even trying to board as you aint going anywhere neither up down or away

As for panic amongst the passengers, have you ever seen a Continetal person queue orderly, Hells bells, at self service buffet, they kill to be first at the tea urn, the same at Italian bus stops, so imagine what it would be like for access to a lifeboat :-)

The boat only totally flipped over nine hours after the event and when anyone who was going to get off had been taken off
The more lowly the crew the lower down your accomodation is ie:- right alongside that Girt big rock

So lets not hang the skipper yet

Jack McH

 

not going to get into a blame and fault debate but i am sad for all that has lost their life and for those who were on board

 

I also wondered why they done that, instead of just keeping quiet .... the problem they now have, is that insurance companies may refuse to pay out, as it will be regarded as negligence (assuming that the captain is indeed found guity)

add that to the fact of the ship still having nearly full tanks, any oil/fuel leaking now will cause a lot of environmental damage as it is right near the shoreline....

if the insurance companies refuse to pay due to negligence, and there is environmental damage, the owners of the ship will have to pay for the clean up

as for further bookings, it would not really hamper that in my honest opinion .... different cruise ship, different name ... good price .... people don't really care ... money talks when it comes to booking a holiday

 

Maritime law applies here and that is agreed worldwide. The captain is the sole person in charge. If he leaves the ship before his charges, he is in dereliction of duty. If he bypassed the "auto pilot " he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

yellowstone is waking up

The University of Utah

 

No, not that one:DOH: The more serious one.

 

if you think that captaining a ship is difficult, check the live details of airtraffic over the UK

the top section has squawk messages indicating which planes have problems ... those planes appear in red

Flightradar24.com - Live Flight Tracker!

 

Well that looked about as live as the Phobos Grunt site.

 

Sorry folks, deleted the photoshoped images as bad taste. Like others pointed out, people have died.