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        @Doghouse Riley All guitarists, irrespective of their kind of music, play certain chords on all six strings, not just jazz guitarists. They are always the easiest ones to play, and dont really need any skill.
         
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        You're speaking to the converted here.

        I played guitar in a band when I was at school, I stopped playing when I moved on to electric piano.

        Yes, simple six string chords like F, G, Ab, AbM7 etc., are no problem for anyone, as they are comfortable "shapes, " but it's the greater complexity of the structure of jazz chords, "inside chords" and those where you have to span four frets.

        With popular music, it's far simpler. You often see pop guitarists often only use a few strings, also change instruments, that's not to produce a different sound as any can be produced through amplification "add ons." Some have guitars tuned differently to make particular tunes easier to play. Then there's the use of capos, to enable them to play in different keys using the same chord shapes.
        No self respecting jazz guitarist would ever use one.
        It's also the ability to play the accompaniment at the same time as the tune.

        Then there's "styles," of fingering

        Spanish



        Western style where the left thumb is used.





        Then there's octave style.

        George Benson copied Wes Montgomery.




        I'd suggest this sort of ability is way beyond your average pop musician.
         
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          Unfortunately, F and AbM7 are not six string chords, both are 4 string chords.

          Who would be considered an "average" pop musican?
           
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          Sorry you're wrong

          You can play them with four strings, but I gave those as examples of where it's easy to play them with six.

          My early teens bible, was "Eric Kershaw's Dance Band Chords for the Guitar." A bargain at 6/-

          scan355.jpg

          Although first published in 1946, it was very popular amongst those wanting to play in a band.

          For most chords, there are three versions illustrated, for either four, five or six strings. It's still a well respected aid.

          I progressed to "Micky Baker's Jazz Chords." Another well respected aid.
          (That was a dollar fifty)

          The three chord merchants had their Bert Weedon's "Play in a day," simple chord book.


          I'm not getting into a discussion of who is or who isn't "average."

          But there's a lot of "string strummin' cacophonous cowboys," on Jools Holland's "Later."
           
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            This is the way F is usually played:

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            As can be seen, the little x's on the chord chart denote that the strings are either muted, or not played. As can be seen, its the same with the AbM7...

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              Oh dear, what a pointless comment.

              You obviously know your place!

              Anyone could know the name by just reading the first few comments below the video.
               
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              I know most of us are snowed in, but let's not get into an argument good people :paladin:
               
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                It's nothing "usual" about it. It's just one way of playing a chord.

                You've only given examples of how you can play with four strings (plus you've shown Abm7 not AbM7 as I posted).
                The examples I gave were shapes of chord which can be used baring the first finger across the fret board and holding down strings with the other three fingers. Thus six string chords.

                "You need a more comprehensive chord book."
                I'm not getting into this any more.
                 
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                  The above comments have caused the closure of this thread due to it being made unfit for purpose, that being the friendly, commonsense exchanges of knowledge and advice along with the enjoyment of music. What the thread descended into was offensively condescending, patronising remarks designed to belittle other members.
                  I have pointed out before that if, in a discussion, a member thinks that a post they are thinking of posting might be offensive or insulting to another member, or members, he/she should think whether or not to post, then think again, and then not post. Unfortunately, some members have disregarded that advice. It is also true that the Admin Team very rarely intervene relying on the goodwill and commonsense of members to realise that a discussion has become a argument and where offence is likely to be caused.
                  However, in this case, a member the Admin Team did make a polite, but firm, intervention, and was ignored by a member who wanted the "satisfaction" of the last word, whereas it is for the GC Admin Team to have the last word. Therefore any intervention by any member of the Admin Team should be respected and the argument should cease. I think it only fair that it should be made known that, if in future, should any member, or members, who ignore the intervention of any member of the GC Admin Team, will have an agreed action taken against them.
                  A new thread will be opened and I'm sure all members will want it to be used for the purpose it was intended for.
                   
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