Dahlia's - not lifting them ?

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  1. lollipop

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    sorry for being a clown but what is sthg? I use hamster bedding lol.
     
  2. Sam1974x

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    I have no idea either Claire .... but you cover yours with hamster bedding ?
     
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    3 of us don`t know what sthg is , any straw ,wood shavings, even old news papers would do , i use mulch as they are in windy front garden and it gets all the wind in winter so i need something with a bit of density that will not get blasted off
     
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    No Sam lol ( that had me chuckling-planters strewn around the garden with sawdust lol)

    I lift them, wash them and dip them in a solution of copper sulphate ( for prevention more than because you have to), let them dry, and put them in a black carrier bag with holes in and in goes a couple of handfuls of hamster bedding-the sawdust you get from petshops(-or lidl actually at 40p a pack it can't be bad), then they go in the laundry room I have as it is dry there and no pesky meecies.


    I do this with pretty much all my bulbs or tubers I have in planters.
     
  5. seedstotal

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    something you see,
    ok so you didn't know sthg stands 4 something, or you were sarcastic, wondering what you could cover it with? (obviously not with stardust-lol)
    sorry 4 the confusion

    let me grab the opportunity and ask you guys about tuberose???? will they survive outside in the soil if i just cover them with stgh? never had them b4 and this spring scattered 100 tubers all over the place
     
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    Sorry seedstotal i wasnt being sarcastic , i have to text my daughter sometimes and ask her to tell me what shes just said in her text as i just cant get the hang of some of these shortcuts L.O.L. (i know that one)
    Sorry i know nothing about the tuberose
     
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    Same with me, I haven't a clue what these abbrevations mean half the time, and if I don't understand something I ask-nothing wrong with that I don't think.
     
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    SeedsTotal - I am afraid that some of us on this forum are old foggies and don't understand mobilespeak. We are not being rude. Unfortunately I don't understand the word tuberose either. Are we still talking about Dahlia tubers? You said that you scattered 100 all over the place, which doesn't sound like Dahlias. Did you dig them in, and what exactly are we talking about?
     
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    Not just the old foggies either Peter:thumb:
     
  10. Sam1974x

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    Ahh but my son says I am old and im the same age as you lol

    I dont understand half of the text type either though
     
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    Sorry!!! Will bear in mind!!!!!!
    Ok so tuberose anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polianthes_tuberosa here you can find what it is!
    Just cannot find any advice anywhere how to overwinter them!!!
    Lift them up or just cover them with sthg:lollol:?
    Just have too many all over the allotment, dont wanna get them up, unless i really have to!

    ok so you know sthg now
    next one IMO=in my opinion
     
  12. lollipop

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    A lot of the stuff I have found relates to the US and about colder climates.

    It says on that wiki article it is thought to be native to Mexico, so I would treat the same way as dahlia tubers. They are both from the same area so the same treatment seems logical to me-IMO (LOL), that is lift, clean, store in a ventilated bag with a couple of handfuls of sawdust and hang from the garage rafters. Checking them every few weeks to make sure they aren't completely dried out or rotting.
     
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    I had not heard of tuberose - sorry I thought it was a short name for something.
    When in doubt I like to Google the Latin name - Polianthes tuberosa, which invariably brings up loads of references. The first one I saw was from another forum :

    This is a quote from 'A handbook of bulbs and perennials for the southern hemisphere' by R E Harrison 1971 ed : 'It is not generally known that once a crown of tuberose has bloomed it will never bloom again... The secret of success is to plant up fresh sideshoots each year, discarding the old crowns. When these new side shoots have reached full size they should bloom the following season, although under ideal conditions...the selected largest offsets will most likely flower in the late autumn. ...(T)hese offsets are...too crowded to reach full flowering size. The crowns for potting are prepared beforehand by stripping off all the new offshoots that are formed around it, as they tend to rob the plant ...A nursery bed can be provided where the offsets are grown for the first season. They are then lifted the following autumn or winter, stripped of their numerous sideshoots and planted out...Every crown should produce a spike of bloom.'

    I have no ides of its accuracy - but it sounds that tuberose could be a bit more complicated that it appears at first sight. This was the source http://www.uk.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ukgard/msg1017103030770.html
     
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    I found that website as well Peter...then lost interest when I read the bit about the crown not blooming again!
     
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    There is a lot of good information on plants of other forums. So (if I can remember) I like to Google using the more/groups option on the top Google menu. The thing about groups and forums is that you get honest discussion. Most normal sites are just trying to sell you the plant, so they have a biased slant.

    If you grow them in pots it isn't much of a problem. But if you plant them in the ground, maybe they take care of the problem by themselves, without you even being aware that the new flowers are coming from offshoots.

    To a certain extent Tulips can do the same thing. I never grew them much as they tended to die away with time. But I recently grew some in pots. They flowered well, but when I lifted them they had all broken apart into several new smaller bulbs, so I seperated the bulbs into large and small ones. The original bulb had disappeared. Next year the larger bulbs flowered, but the smaller ones didn't flower but grew happily and should be big enough to flower this year. If I hadn't lifted them, examined them, and counted them I would have been unaware and assumed the old bulb was still flowering. Incidentally I now have three times as many bulbs. I don't know if this is true of all tulips or just mine. I think the reason mine are multiplying rather than dying away, is due to lifting them. Tulips have a tendance to rot in our wet summers, when they are dormant. They come from central Asia where the summers are very dry.
     
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