Dead heading

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  1. Freddy

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    Oh boy, don't you just love gardening ? :thumb:
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    So Freddy, when do you do yours?
     
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    Hi Claire. Do what ? Dead head or prune ? If you mean dead heading, I take them off when they're past their best, nothing scientific :) As for pruning, all this stuff is new to me, so last year/this year (bearing in mind that I was trying to recover some older roses and following advice here) I pruned around November and again in March (I think). I think in future though I'll probably just do it the once in November, I have enough to remember as it is without having to think about pruning twice.
    Cheers...freddy.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how all our different methods affect the growth of roses.
     
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    Hi everyone I have seen as an experiment 120 Roses in a bed pruned in March with a Hedge trimmer,with supprising results? :dh::)
     
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    I've enjoyed this thread immensley:) Just to put my tuppence worth in don't dead head rigosas or ramblers or you will lose some astonishingly beautiful hips:gnthb:
     
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    My neighbour does that with her Roses Woo.....and they seem fine to me:scratch:

    What about trimming back to the fifth leaf branch then.....have you heard of this?..again,mine do ok and keep on flowering.
     
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    I saw that, or something similar on that DVD you sent me Woo, the gardener there didn't seem happy that it was being done, but good ol' Geoff Hamilton said it looked better so, so I will agree with him-as always lol.
     
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    Hi Pal Yes:hehe: We are advised to "deadhead" regularly--that is, to remove the spent blossoms just above the first five leaflet leaf. Occasionally we find a reference that advises removing the spent blossoms at a three leaflet leaf after the first spring flush, the reason being to conserve foliage needed by the plant for photosynthesis.:thumb:
    But Mary Beth Martin's brain worked--she dead-headed way up the stem, right below the bloom. So did Frances Nixon with her old garden roses--the spent blooms were removed right at the neck. :thumb:

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    When you are deadheading your roses, do you cut down to the first set of five leaflets? The current advice from experimental gardens in the RNRS (Royal National Rose Society) headquarters at St. Albans is to nip off the dead flower just at the neck. That will promote immediate growth and a quicker return to flowering. The only sufferers in this will be the exhibitors who will go their own way anyway. After all, if you can't believe yourself, who can you believe?:old::hehe:

    Is it time to question the traditional way of deadheading roses?

    Pruning to a five-leaflet leaf is not always necessary. The "just remove the flower and leave all the foliage" treatment produces more basal breaks and faster healthy regrowth than does traditional deadheading.:thumb::)
     
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    Hi Lollipop Yes I tried just once when I was at Cobham hall,The only problem I encountered was in the late spring they all grew at different heights,and I spent the rest of the summer leveling them up:dh:But otherwise than that nothing was any different:)
     
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    Is it time to question the traditional way of deadheading roses?

    Pruning to a five-leaflet leaf is not always necessary. The "just remove the flower and leave all the foliage" treatment produces more basal breaks and faster healthy regrowth than does traditional deadheading

    Well in that case I'm gonna try it this year then! In fact, with the rain this last week, my first flush must be about ready for being done, so I'll be off and getting out there ... :)
     
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