Do you love it? Do you loathe it? Do you care?

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  1. shiney

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    You don't know what you're missing (probably don't care :heehee:). That's just a simple statement and not used as the common meaning of the phrase. :whistle:
     
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    That’s because that diagram was too simple for you. Try this one (it’ll keep you off the Forum for a while!) but, WHATEVER YOU DO, don’t think about it next time you board a plane: upload_2022-8-11_11-35-39.jpeg
     
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      You've heard of multi-tasking? :biggrin: It's a woman thing.....the art of doing several things not very well instead of accomplishing tasks perfectly, one at a time. AKA pottering :)
       
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        You'd probably be alright with that picture as it looks more like something from a fighter jet than a modern airliner which look more like this Rolls Royce Trent 900 Turbofan
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        Just don't ask the person sat next to you if Rolls have solved the problem with turbine blades shattering. Nor comment on the fascinating way the wings move up and down almost like flapping.
        Although if you do it often ensures a quiet flight.
         
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          Lucky for that woman who suggested you were no real man; how she must regret her remark ... although, of course, had you had a cutthroat razor, she would have no regrets!
           
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            I once flew up from East Midlands in an old Viscount and the chap sitting next to me said it made him feel confident to look out and see the Rolls Royce logo on the engines as he was a Rolls Royce engineer. Unfortunately, all I could see was a 35-year-old airframe which didn't make me feel confident. Especially as the wheels lifted off about 10 feet from the end of the runway. I thought we were about to drive up the motorway.
             
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              It certainly did as my internet went down all afternoon.

              I thought the diagram was my stomach! :hate-shocked:
               
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                Oh @shiney please don't make me chuckle....it's too hot! :)
                 
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                  I’d nearly forgotten what this thread was about, so seeing the posting of an aircraft engine reminded me that it is about unwelcome noise.

                  Mme Lab would like a sound encounter she had with noise to be related on this Forum; it dates back to ≈ 1995, when she was still Mademoiselle LoiEtBordure; she’d bought a ground floor flat in Brixton; if you don’t like noise, that’s two mistakes, one being the location where noise is a welcome prerequisite, the other is having someone living above you.

                  My phone rang at one o’clock in the morning: You’ve got to come over and help me.

                  I hopped on my motorbike and arrived at her flat in Plato Road, Brixton; she opened the door and I was stunned by the thunder blast that came through the landing door leading to the first floor.
                  This guy moved in three days ago and, every night, this starts at about midnight.
                  How long does it go on for?
                  All night.
                  No!
                  Yes.
                  What can I do?

                  My mind was racing, trying to combine the factors of the equation; this was a tricky situation.
                  I said: You have to be philosophical about it (remember the address).
                  But this is not livable.
                  I’ll go and talk to him
                  (dangerous).

                  I rang the doorbell. No reply. I rang again and again, eventually leaving my finger on the button, until the door was flung open and “the guy” asked:
                  What’ the problem?
                  I am very sorry to disturb you. I wonder if it would be possible at all for you to turn down the music which, in my friend’s flat, down here, actually makes it impossible for us to hear each other speak.

                  He put his hand up, cupping his ear and said: What?
                  I repeated.
                  He said: I can’t hear you. It was true, we could barely hear each other. He said: Wait, went upstairs; the music stopped, he came down again and said: What’s the problem?
                  I said: I am very sorry to disturb you. I wonder if it would be possible at all for you to keep the music down, it is actually impossible in my friend’s flat for us to hear each other speak.
                  He said: I can’t help you there. If I haven’t got the music on, I can’t sleep. And at the end of the tape, when it stops, I wake up and I have to put it on again until I fall asleep and when I am asleep, I can’t turn off.
                  I said: But the problem is that my friend can’t sleep with the music on.
                  He said: Well, that’s her problem, isn’t it?
                  I said: Well, it’s now my problem.
                  That made him evoke a sort of shadow of a smile and I realised there was a glimpse of hope that we might be able to negotiate.
                  Is there any way, I said, that you could get yourself a pair of earphones so that you could have the music as loud as you like while no one else could hear it?
                  I couldn’t afford them, mate.

                  I happened to have access to audio equipment in those days. I told him I could get him some really good gear.
                  He said: How much are they?
                  I said: It wouldn't cost either of us anything. And you could keep them.

                  That was a done deal. He was happy. And Mademoiselle LoiEtBordure slept happily ever after. Well, until I dismantled her Felco.
                   
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                    For those in London (and possibly all over the UK?), look out of you window, there is a full moon with a HUGE green halo around it.

                    The halo is quite far away from it, like the rim of a giant wagon wheel, with its axis being the moon.

                    I’ve never seen anything like it.
                     
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                      It's usually caused by refraction through light cirrus clouds that are high up in the atmosphere. :blue thumb:
                       
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                        Back on topic. :biggrin:

                        I more than dislike unnecessary background music to television or radio programmes and especially advertisements. They even, sometimes, have background 'music' in some weather forecasts.

                        As a fully paid up member of the Grumpy Old Men's Club :old:, and President :love30: of said club, I moan a lot to Mrs S about it. It seems to be the Law of Broadcasting that the more inane the programme the louder the background noise becomes. I shall have to check whether there is a correlation between the two.

                        For TV ads I can just press the mute button. Inane programmes can be bypassed but the affliction seems to be spreading to less inane programmes and has already spilled over into news and weather. Sometimes they call it mood music and it certainly appears to be so as it puts me in a bad mood!

                        I spend a lot time working in the kitchen (cooking is a hobby) and I have the radio on all the time I'm in there. I only listen to talk radio but they still manage to raise my ire, especially with some of their advertisements. It's the last part of some ads that really annoy me. This is when they give their disclaimers and terms and conditions spoken at such speed that they are almost, but not quite, unintelligible. I make a promise to myself never to knowingly buy any of such advertised products. This fast speaking is unnecessary with TV advertising as they put all that rubbish in tiny, almost illegible, print at the bottom of the screen.

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                          The other noise that I dislike intensely is people talking too fast in, supposedly, normal conversation. This is most noticeable nowadays in interviews with some politicians and 'experts'. A part of this fast speaking is them not leaving even a pause between sentences! I used to hire speakers for some meetings and always told them that they should not speak too fast otherwise they won't be invited back. I was even able to impart this information with a non-grumpy tone (difficult for me!).

                          This speed talking affliction has spilled over into the younger generation and I'm loathe to blame it on rappers - but seem to have just done so. :noidea: Some of the younger generation have also started slurring their words which would have resulted in a clump round the ear in 'the old days'! :paladin:

                          I was talking, at a normal pace, to an audiologist and he said that people do seem to be speaking faster and he puts it down to the faster pace of life nowadays.

                          Do You Talk Too Fast? How to Slow Down

                          Also with the younger generation I have difficulty understanding some of their language. Language seems to be evolving faster than I can keep up with - but nowadays most things are faster than I can keep up with :old:.

                          This is a worrying phenomena:-

                          https://www.theweek.co.uk/93033/uk-pupils-increasingly-held-back-by-limited-vocabulary
                           
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                            I was in Toastmasters for two years and this would be a real no-no! Also hesitating and saying um, err, ah, etc ... nowadays that would be like, basically, and other nonsense.
                             
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                              If I weren’t concerned about being thought a snob, I would speak my mind and say ... but I won’t say it.

                              Mrs Lab says: Say it!

                              Okay. If I weren’t concerned about being thought a snob, I would speak my mind and say: What on earth are you doing listening to or watching programmes that either contain, or are sponsored by advertising?

                              Advertising is a scourge (une “engeance”) devised and produced by scam artists who, having parked their Porsches and Rolls-Royces under air-conditioned buildings, sit in boardrooms and cynically toil to deprive a gullible public of their hard-earned assets which they have, sometimes unwittingly, acquired through deceitful, cunning, and often subliminal advertising, that’s how vicious it is. The reason I know that is because I partly used to make my living out of associating with them; call me Judas in the woodpile! You would be perfectly entitled to ask: Que diable alliez-vous faire dans cette galère? Well, I stuck to it until the nausea became unbearable and chose instead to sit in fragrance of notre jardin ... acquired, partly, as the curate would say, through advertising.
                               
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