Domestic appliances - yes, I am going to nag you!

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    Nor should you: ever! You are offering sage advice based on your personal experiences and professional knowledge! Due respect :love30: and no apology necessary! :thumbsup:
     
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      Absolutely @"M" - much bigger fish; however it is equally important that the issue of the standards that domestic appliances are being made and sold to, and even more importantly how any recalls are handled, is significantly tightened. The length of time that the recall on those tumble dryers has taken is simply unforgivable.
       
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        I can only agree :thumbsup:
        :scratch: So, where do the EU standards fall in this? :noidea:
        :scratch: Is there a case to answer for challenging this in respect of EU legislation? :dunno:

        I know many people are looking to the UK Gov for answers, but, let's be honest, this has all occurred under an EU "watch" in terms of EU laws/safety standards.
        So, in my pea brain, I'm wondering why no one is holding the EU accountable for such a travesty in terms of health and safety/quality control? :noidea:
         
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          You would think there would be a case for the EU to answer, however therein may lie the very problem. There are many, many different electrical standards around the world - personally, I believe the British standards were always the best (remember the BS Kite mark?), however I wonder how much those standards have been eroded by interference from the EU?

          I also believe that the push to be 'green' has its part to play, as manufacturers have had to squeeze reasonable levels of performance out of appliances that are increasingly more and more efficient in terms of power used in use. The fact that to make things lighter means to make them thinner (more prone to failure?), or to make them out of 'revolutionary' materials (flammable plastics?) whilst also making them at increasingly lower price points...... well, something has to give. The fact that many of these appliances have dramatically shortened life spans, and therefore have a greater environmental impact over their whole life means nothing to the bureaucrats, as long as it uses less wattage.

          The EU proved to me that they know absolutely sweet-FA about electrical appliances and efficiency when they started applying rules to limit the wattage of things like hairdryers - it takes a given amount of energy to evaporate a given amount of water; if that energy is being delivered at a lower flow rate, it simply takes longer to get the job done - - the SAME amount of energy is used.
           
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            This is the current advice:-


            "The Metropolitan Police stated today that a Hotpoint FF175BP fridge freezer has been identified as the initial source of the Grenfell Tower fire.

            Owners of a Hotpoint fridge freezer model FF175BP (White) and FF175BG (Graphite) should call the manufacturer's freephone hotline on 0800 316 3826 to register their details for further information."
             
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              If it's got the CE sticker it mush be safe :snorky:
              That's funny the last few years i'm not seen many CE stickers
               
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                So flaming true @fat controller. My ancient toaster packed up last year, it took hardly any time at all to produce well done toast as I like it. The new all singing and dancing thing is pathetic and despite being on the highest setting I still need to put the bread down twice to get it toasted enough. bet I use more electricity doing this than what I used with the old 1. i thought the new toaster was faulty until my daughter told me how thanks to the EU so many appliances aren't as powerful as they used to be.....:rolleyespink:sigh
                 
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                  Hey FC,

                  Just seen this interesting thread and good to see someone prepared to give their views and name the brands.

                  While personally not too worried about washers or dryers because we do not go out and leave them on and they are generally only lightly loaded and kept clean, but its the freestanding 6 year old Beko Fridge Freezer that does concern me.

                  It still seems to work well and its kept in a cleanish kitchen environment with a decent air flow around it, occasionally having the fins cleaned of dust, is there anything I can or should be doing to ensure its safe to use ?
                  The plug and dedicated socket are good, clean and correctly fused; dry powder fire extinguisher in the house.
                   
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                    We have three chest freezers and i clean the cooling fins twice a year, but lots of people don't
                     
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                      Probably got banged up along with Bill Stickers, folk aways wanted to prosecute him.
                       
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                          @ricky101 - sounds to me as though you are doing all you reasonably can do under the circumstances. The only thing I would add, is that if the performance of it ever 'dips' (as in, you have to keep on turning the thermostat to make it colder), or if you notice that the compressor is running continuously, then unplug it immediately and open as many windows as you can to disperse any gas that may be leaking.

                          Longer term, you might want to start saving your pennies up to make it easier to buy a nice Miele, Bosch etc.
                           
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                            We haven't been back home doors long as we have been down to our local Currys to see about a new Fridge freezer as I have finally convinced Mr Kandy that out 18 year old Bosh one is on its way out.When you open the freezer door and put your hand on the top of it it feels hot which I don't think is right and also we are finding one day we can spread our butter easily from the fridge yet the next day it has gone quiet hard and was difficult to spread:scratch: We were talking to someone last week about it and they said it sounds like the thermostat in the fridge has gone haywire:sad:

                            Anyway,off we trot down to Currys to sort out a new one and was most disappointed in the range they had on offer.A lot of them were either Becko or Hotpoint or they wasn't frost free,plus when you look inside the fridge there is one top shelf then two crispers underneath which we don't really want.Also we need one a certain depth but all of them are now deeper soif we have one of them they will stick out past our cupboards:sad: What also cracked me up was at the end of the display of them there was a stand with a box full of Carbon Monoxide testers,I kid you not:snorky:

                            So now we are home we are looking at John Lewis's website for starters and we have narrowed it down to a choice of 44 in the clearance section but less if we get rid of the rubbish makes but I think £999 a bit steep just to keep our food cold and frozen:biggrin:

                            Another thing that annoys me is why do they have to build these things for only tall people?I am only 5ft 1" and it does do my head in having to stand on a step to reach the top shelf to get anything,cupboards are just the same and I struggle with those as well.:sad:

                            I really need a fridge freezer that stand side by side,but unfortunately my kitchen isn't big enough to accommodate those sort and Mr Kandy being 5ft 8" in height would moan he had to kneel down on the kitchen floor to get anything out of them:snorky:
                             
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                              Have you had a look at ao.com @Kandy? I've bought from them a few times now, and have been very impressed with them :blue thumb:
                               
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                                That was a pun abut the "hotline" wasn't it??:dunno::scratch::doh::hate-shocked::heehee:
                                 
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