Electric cars.

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  1. gks

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    It does not matter where you go to fuel up your tank, all cars can pull up the pump put the nozzle in and fuel up. If your sharing a pump, it will still dispense the flow of fuel at the same rate. Now I know they are installing new rapid chargers, but if your sharing, then it doubles the time to charge, unlike petrol stations where the nozzle will fit all brands of cars, EV charging connectors don't. So there could and will be empty charging stations, but because your vehicle is not compatible, you can't charge.

    Electric car charger types and connectors – a visual guide | RAC Drive
     
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      The first thing they have to do is standardise the things, that should have been obvious from the start to any idiot.
       
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        Seeing that bus has made me think. For those of us that still garage their cars at home, I for one would never park an electric car in an integral garage.
         
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        A bus carrying school children caught fire in Gloucester earlier this month with people saying it didn't get the same exposure on social media as the other bus fires that where electric.

        The bus in question that caught fire looks very scary when you see the image that the BBC went with in the link below.

        Gloucestershire: School bus catches fire on B4215 in Highleadon - BBC News

        The fire actually started in the roof, probably the heating or air con. It wouldn't of made any difference if it was a BEV bus or a combustion powered bus, an electrical shortage would and will cause a fire.

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        According to the AA, the single biggest cause of car and vehicle fires is, arson and vandalism. I wonder if those statistics are included or excluded when reporting vehicle fires by fuel type?
         
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          Regular bus fires aren't sensationalist enough for the scum media
           
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            ...And that garage looks as if it's detached.
             
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              I don't believe it's physically possible for government to come up with practical, affordable or rational answers. They appear to have the gene removed or something
               
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                As I say I only saw something about needing more charging places and the prices are need to be more comparable to ICE vehicles.
                The last one suggest, (in my devious mind), they will slap more tax on ICE vehicles in order to make EVs seem cheaper, not the other way round.

                Do we really need an enquiry into this kind of stuff, I presume those running the inquiry, at probably great expense to the tax payer, have been out asking the public what they think, or is it just an old fogies gathering of people that are cheating the care home or coffin dodging.
                 
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                All I want is a sum up of what was said to be honest.
                These people just waffle on, mostly because they are out of work lawyers who have waffled on all their lives.
                I could probably read it all and still not understand it.
                But I get your point.
                 
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                "The Government should take a more proactive and leading role in communicating a positive vision of the EV transition to consumers, and promoting comprehensive, clear, authoritative, accurate and balanced information. It should also develop a communication strategy in collaboration with industry partners and consumer organisations to provide clear, authoritative and trustworthy information".

                That basically suggests that the government should be telling us porkies? If necessary.
                Balanced information, as long as its puts EVs in a positive light?
                The first line says it all really.

                If they sold them at 75% of the price of an ICE vehicle they would sell like hot cakes, that would be my recommendation.:biggrin: End of.
                 
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                Ive heard that elec car tax is on the way up, when batteries stop working its too expensive to replace so the cars are scrapped earlier, they are heavier and do more damage to the roads and heres the killer fact..from raw materils to scrapped car, they produce MORE pollution than a petrol car. Sadiq has cottoned onto this last point and has them in his sights.
                 
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                Well this is the year where 22% of new car registrations must be BEV. So, now SMMT have released January new car registration figures, what was the market share for BEV for the month of January 14.7% a 1.6% increase on January 2023 figures. With those figures it's hard to see BEV having a market share of 18% let alone 22% for 2024.

                New car registrations were up by 8.2% compared to the same month last year, but it's the percentage share between private and fleet registrations where you can see where the industry in the UK is heading.

                Private sales of new cars declined by 15.8% to a market share 35.2% in January with fleet at 63.2% and business at 1.6% markets share. Fleet in general has always accounted for more new car registrations than private but never by such a high percentage. ICE vehicles have been getting more and more expensive, it's not BEV's getting cheaper, so we all know where parity is going to come from.

                I was looking at other European countries and how they compare to us, there is not many other countries other than Norway, Holland and a few more where BEV has a 16% + market share.
                Italy is an interesting one, the market share of BEV'S is woeful and they reckon even with subsidies, Italians are not sold on owning a BEV. For a country that has a population that is about 8 million less than the UK, they actually have 4.5 million more passenger cars registered than the UK has.
                 
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                This is well worth a watch. Harry Metcalfe is long standing in the motoring journalism world, and in this case he is putting his own money where his mouth is. Probably one of the most balanced and informative videos I have seen.

                 
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